@Kai mentioned in the events he hosted earlier that people who switched guilds after the Christmas patch won’t be able to win the Snow Pepe chair should their new guild end up being top 25 in rank. Can any admins verify this please?
You need to be in the guild when the event ends, and have contributed at least 500 snow towards that guild, and the guild be in the top 25 at the end of the event. Im pretty certain the NPC explains all 3 of these requirements already.
Thanks Matt! That was what we thought, but we were thrown off by what Kai said, so just wanted to make sure. All good
Does this mean one can join any top25 guild 5 min before the end of the event and donate 500 snow for that guild and get the reward as well? I believe some did this during the pie guild competition in the past.
For people who want this chair and are willing to work for it, it feels kinda unfair for them just because they are in a guild that is not among the top few. It doesn't sit well with me that for such people (me included), we gotta join the few top guilds or forget about having this chair, after all isn't the point of such guild competition to encourage guild members to bond and work together for rewards? A few of my friends felt the same way and people who like being in "casual" guilds shouldn't have to be shortchanged this much, imo. Perhaps in the future the chair could be attainable by donating to your guild 10000 snows (?) and if your guild is within the top 25th perhaps everyone can get Christmas presents, NX, etc instead? At least those are "consumables", unlike the chair that is meant to represent the effort you put in for your guild (which the current requirements is too easy (500 snow only?) and most importantly it encourages others to simply join top guilds instead of working hard for their own guild)
If you want to, yes. Indeed, the point of the competition is to generate guild activity, encourage guild members to work together to contribute as much snow as possible, and increase the amount of times the snowblower goes off. It isn't too late for us to change it to a higher requirement if that is what will help make the event better and/or discourage people just joining the winning guilds at the last minute, or change it to include for example the top 50 instead. However, at the moment you need to have contributed around 35k to get into the top 25, which equates to a guild contributing around 5k per day. I don't know how many active players would be in a so-called 'casual' guild, but I wouldn't have thought 5k per day to be too difficult to achieve. But if there are guilds that literally only have a couple of active characters, and they don't want to go through the effort of recruiting any new members, then the unfortunate truth is simply that this part of the event isn't targeted at those players.
My guild (Cringeworthy) is by no means top guild but the few of us have really been determined from the start. We’ve surprised ourselves that we managed to stay competitive alongside other big name guilds (for now). I won’t say it’s easy grinding our asses off being a small, no name guild, nowhere near full capacity, but it really takes motivated members to actively participate and do their part to get there. We often remind members to donate snow, we tell them about the reward and how awesome it is, we even have a collaboration plan with our alliance to get there. In the case of our guild, the event has as Matt said “generate guild activity, encourage members to contribute as much snow as they can” and we’re all feeling the hype to win the chair! I have seen instances where people who were in less active guilds, or less active themselves, being transparent about joining other guilds currently in the leaderboard for the chair, only to leave after the event is over. And that’s okay imo, it gives people a chance to be in a different guild, meet new people, have more interactions, and possibly liking it enough to call it their new home. I say why not?
I agree that the guild who actively recruit members and those top guilds who have more active members should be rewarded. As it stands the requirement to get the chair is way too low, and I think it will end up being like how sparky95 says the chair will be readily available for people who just join a top guild and donate 500 snow. If it can't be helped that people who are willing to farm but don't want to leave their "casual" guild, thus are not able to be in the top 25th and not stand a chance to get the chair, I feel that at the very least the requirement should be made harder, so the value of the chair will not be diminished. If everyone can easily get the chair, then the chair won't be special, and there is not much point to this part of the event. It would also prevent people from simply joining a top guild for the sole purpose of getting the chair. I think that is really respectable for your guild to be able to rise up the ranks! But why would you be ok with people simply joining a guild within 25th and getting that chair? That chair is supposed to be something you and your guildmates have worked your asses off for. And I think it is a huge insult to all your guild's effort for someone to just pop by a top few guild and also receive the chair (note that the 500 snow contribution is way too easy) The argument in defense for those guild hoppers still feels quite superficial to me. To me, you should first join a guild, like it enough to call it home and be willing to work hard for this event together to get a chair. Not the other way round where you first get the chair without putting in much effort, and somehow remain in the guild? The intention is just wrong from the start, although at this point given how easy it is to get a chair as long as you're in the top 25th guild (possibly meaning a huge number of players already), the value of the chair might be so insignificant that letting other players have the chair effortlessly doesn't really bother them. I would like to think of the chair as a recognition of the effort an individual has put in for his/her own guild. Perhaps one would get the chair if they have contributed e.g. 20k snow for their guild (or whatever amount that is reasonable for a non-mage to farm before this event ends), and perhaps the people who are in the top 1-10th guild and have contributed at least e.g. 5000 snows would all receive extra attractive rewards, maybe say 10 christmas boxes, and the 11-25th would all get 5 boxes (just making up numbers, the main point is the idea behind it). This would encourage people to work hard for their own guild, and know that their efforts are not in vain. Right now, assuming I do not want to join any of the potential 1st-25th guild, and my guild is not likely to be within 25th, all my excess snows are pretty much redundant. The difference in this method is that the value of the chair is much more appreciated, where people who are awarded this chair are those who are willing to farm a significant amount of snows for their own guild, those who simply sit around will not receive this chair. Lastly, it will also not shortchange the top few guilds, where their effort is also rewarded. Sorry for the long post!
I see where you're coming from and it does make sense to feel that way. I suppose we just see this game in very different ways. If I were to be mad at every person who had it easy in the game, whether it is having help with starting funds, gears, "quitting buddies", getting 5 cs in 70 tickets, I'd have quit the game a long time ago. This is no different to me. I still take pride in earning everything I have today (be it through selling my soul in skeles), what I have accomplished (yay Quest Specialist medal!!), and how I got there. My journey is my own, and I'd like it if I can share some joy with my friends who doesn't main a mage like I do to still have a chair we can sit on, together (even if it means carrying their heavy asses. Hello @KWJ @TheKing @KazeAkira ).
I hope the minimum contribution criteria can be significantly increased, around 5000. Current 500 requirement seems too easy to be abused by the lazy ones who would seek to reap the reward without a real contribution for the guild.
Since we're on the topic of snow. . are we allowed to do multiple snowmans per char, per spawn? Many people are doing it, but there are also some that say it might be considered bug abused since presents are one-of-a-kind in the description. @Matt
