"Advanced" Guide to Mr. Pickall's Gambling Game

What you mean at the cost of nothing? You have to pay to have a chance to win…

 

i'd like to have my 100k nx in ap resets. you can keep the change.

i'm getting cocky. i better not lose.

 

You don't pay in NX you pay in Mesos.

 

My bad, a while back I was on a server who had the same gambling system, except one of the options was you get your money back instead of getting nothing

 

I think sluttles was talking about the bet he made with muddy *grabs popcorns*

 

winner is only declared when the GM speaks.

somebody bring gm in here.

 

I'd really like to know how this would be considered a banable offence. So the exploit is you have some fun and lose 20m in an hour instead of 45 minutes? Sounds about right. The math speaks for itself (net -50k per play vs -33k per play), you can't make money without Lady Luck. It's not like betting 100k on Black on a Roulette Table, and then doubling your bet until you win, then switch colours to make profit. You don't beat the system with this technique, you just make it a 2/6 (1/3) chance to win instead of 2/7.

 

Exactly, I really don't see how this is exploitable no matter how you do it, unless you hack the program, which in itself is a bannable offence.

 

Sure. I'd like my pay to be in ap resets as well, however, I'll claim the change later

 

ayyy lmao. wait for a gm to respond tho.

 

Could have sworn this has been discussed before and the GM said it's an exploit.

Too lazy to dig.

 

Either way if it is an exploit, He already said he had no idea it was so he wont get banned. Seeinng how manny has seen this thread im sure if it was a huge issue something would have been said by now.

 

LOOOL.

 

Ignorance of the law (or in this case, the ToS) is not a defense.

Anyways, it doesn't that even using this you still lose money, the fact is that you're clearly messing with some faulty coding to decrease your losses. Using this "strategy," you are roughly 17k richer every time than a player who does not do this, which means there is a clear and almost certainly unintended advantage to doing this. In doing this, you are essentially taking advantage of an error in the code, which is almost the exact definition of an exploit.

Anyways, I don't think you deserve to be banned for this, but I definitely think that is not only an illegitimate method to gain an advantage, but it also goes against the spirit of the game. You know that's not how the game is designed to be played, so why do it?

I think someone is about to help Sluttles do quite a bit of HP washing.

 

That makes no sense. If he doesent know its an exploit when posting then how is it his fault? How can that not be used in his defence?

 

David, what the hell are you talking about? There's noting to EXPLOIT. You are still more likely to lose money, just smart usage of game mechanics. It's not faulty coding since you can't get negative mesos it's always been like that re-coding the game to be able to give negative mesos never intended and a useless feature(do you know how many problems would occur if negative mesos were allowed?). So no they didn't code it the wrong way it's just not possible to get negative mesos. You pay 100k which is how much is required for you to play. You lose 150k but the npc can't deduct that 50k because you don't have it. Smart usage of game mechanics people. That's all there is to it.

 

@Everyone who refers to me as "he", i'm a girl.

Sorry, for me to point something out like this, but there is something wrong with your argument, your points are fine, everything is fine, but what's wrong?
I believe it's what your whole argument revolves around, you argue about "The advantage you get when you compare yourself and another player playing this game" and how "This is still illegitimate no matter what we say".

The main problem with what you're arguing with, arises from this. THAT was NOT the point me and Sluttles were making a bet on, we made a bet on "whether this is exploitable or not". In this case, I said "NO", and Sluttles said "YES".

First, let's look at the MAIN TERM "Exploitable". http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/exploitable. As shown in this renowned dictionary, it means: "if something is exploitable, it can be used or developed to make a profit".
We need to make clear that there is a distinct line between "less deficit", and "profit".
So we come to the conclusion that, this method, is not exploitable, because even if you knew this method, NO one would actually go ahead and be able to use this method continuously to earn "profit".

 

Also, note that I have posted before the only method I can think of to "fix" this game. Which is to have a pre-requirement of 150k mesos+ in the game instead of 100k mesos+. That is if you want to keep the game the same , or you can also make each box cost 150k mesos, and make the rewards "50k", "250k", and "nothing".

It's not like I am ignorant this "may" be on the gray field of illegal or not, I clearly stated in both my original post and in a future post that this may be a bug and I have gave ideas to fix the bug in one way or another. Just putting this in my field of perspective before you act like I stand firm that this is obviously not illegal and will continue to abuse it.

I haven't even touched Mr. Pickall ever since I made this guide, and i'm sure others haven't spent like 2 hours playing this gambling game also.

 

I also think it would be dumb for GMs to forbid this since you can't make any profit from this. Imagine all the complaints from players getting a 3 day ban for something as silly as this, it's not even an error in the design. It's just how the mechanics of the game work there's no way you can code this to be fixed since there's NOTHING to be fixed.

And also forcing people the pre-requirement of 150k makes it less nostalgic, why should someone who takes smart usage of game mechanics get punished for this? Makes the whole pinball game less fun, imagine someone trying to play the pinball game with 100k mesos and the npc says "sorry you don't have 150k". They'd be like: wow this is not nostalgic why would I need 150k mesos? Devs so bad at coding imma post it on the forums an complain!

So many useless complains would come and waste our time explaining to them why it works like that.

 

~gm Requesting a GM to temporarily close this guide or until a firm decision is reached by the GMs.