Updating to v83

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    All I'd really want is Dojo, ToT+PB and possibly CWKPQ. I hate SoK and Vicious Hammers.
     
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    80:20 party experience formula. Not offering an opinion on this, just throwing it out there as food for thought, since it's part of v80.
     
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    You all saw nothing.
     
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    This may sound harsh but if people are unsatisfied with the server version should just play another. There's other v83 servers out there so instead of trying to dramatically change it why not choose a different server. It's not like the community would remain the same after a server wipe anyway. In terms of early versions, this is the best private server of them all. I would play an earlier version over a later version if any were actually run decently.

    Plus think of the item smega spam -shivers-.
     
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    There's only Cygnus which we know is capped at 120 so that isn't much.

    There's also Aran which might be a little strong in v83, but let's be honest, it's a very unconventional class and will not be OP in this server.

    Honestly, when it comes to a low rate v83, there is NO competition if you try and look, there's on MapleDestiny which really gives us a lot of opportunity.

    I was hesitant to join this server because it was v62 but what needs to be realised is that in terms of BBB private server right now, the competition is absolute garbage so updating to v83 I'm sure would only benefit us.

    We get Medals, Malaysia, Belts, Mulung Dojo, Pink Bean (more extremely long term goals) + ToT, Monster Books, CWKPQ, Kerning Square Mall, Dimensional Mirror, many new mounts, and all this is not listing all the new maps and items, user interface updates etc.

    Being realistic, I've played Maplestory for a very long time as would have most of you, and being around private servers forever, the best pre-potential and most successfull pre-potential server has and will always be v83. We can only grow from this because v62 is a limitation rather than a purple sheep right now. Anyway, I know this won't happen now but I think in time the server will eventually press for it because there won't be as much to do seeing this is v62; people will come to terms with a wipe, it's just the way it goes, you'll be stuck with a micro-niche otherwise and that's no good.
     
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    Cygnuses kinda ruined the game for me, I personally never liked them, and Arans are just meh. I prefer v62 over all. This server is v62, and there is no reason to update to v83.
     
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    go play dms or any of the many many others if u want v83
     
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    Listen guys, it should say something to you that as much as I bitch about all the Pirate bugs in v62, I'm still staunchly against updating to v83, where Pirates are fully working. Matt has outright said most of the stuff you're looking to add from v83 is what he doesn't want here. It's easy to say that people will come to terms with a wipe when you haven't grinded your ass off yourself.

    #v62gangordie
     
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    I think lukless Bishops who have worked really hard on their ele wand might not appreciate that one very much - hello hefty damage nerf.
     
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    that ele wand change balances the mage class anyway.
     
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    This may as well be the "I got banned from DMS" thread.
     
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    Still doesn't make it right for anyone who's spent a lot of money/white scrolls trying to perfect their weapon on the - entirely reasonable, as this is a v62 server and not GMS - assumption that things aren't going to change.

    EDIT: figured out the answer to my question to Nobody, so deleted it!
     
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    No. The purpose of this being a v62 server is for the nostalgic experience. Aran's KoC are not nostalgic, Yes v83 does have ToT and pink bean and more PQs but those are things we can live without if you don't like playing v62 go join DMS.
     
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    To everyone saying go play DMS, there's a reason I chose to play here and not DMS and that's the community. I love it here and I'm not playing it based on it's version, otherwise I'd definitely be playing DMS because v62 is a very bland one dimensional version (Leech from Bishop at skeles or zakum to level 200, scroll forever, kill horntail and game over); all I'm suggesting is that v62 servers are and will always be SHORT TERM servers because of these limitations. I don't know why people think v62 is nostalgic but v83 isn't; any server before the domination of potentials is nostalgic and is why we're here, updating to v83 will not ruin it, it will only give us more to be nostalgic about. There's a reason there's only a few v62 servers and that's because people who want nostalgia go back to a point where MS was the most fun and that is v83.

    v83 has everything in v62 and isn't very different in terms of gameplay except that is it much more developed and has much more to do with the nostalgia. There's nothing wrong with v83 and my suggestion is purely a long term suggestion based on the longevity of v62 not very long...

    The population will only grow with v83 and people will only find more reasons to play. I made this thread because me, along with a lot of my friends who have all reached at least 130 + are finding less and less things to do and each day I find less and less buddies logged in because of this.

    As a Drk, all I do is BF and HH and 90% of the time they're dead, otherwise I need to find a bishop to skele and let's be honest, most of them leech themselves so I have nothing to do. I don't have motivation besides horntail which is end game and I can't look forward to ToT, or the plenty of things in v83 so I log off and come back the next day to spend less time as my friends are offline for the same reason.

    There's a reason that this server is not growing much if at all and that's because people are slowly spending less time playing it because there's honestly nothing to do for most people most of the time.

    Anyway, I'm just being realistic because nostalgia or not, when I played v62 in GMS, I couldn't damn wait for the updates because of how boring it was and those are the memories I have of it.

    A wipe is never something people want, but it may be necessary and believe me, people will come back and stay, and it will grow much larger than it is now.

    Anyway, before people reply, try and take in what I say and seriously be realistic and maybe try and notice that the server is becoming a lot more inactive.

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    Seriously, if Arans and KoC aren't nostalgic for you, don't create one... All other 5 jobs have nearly no noticeable changes so the addition of Arans will only give more options to people without taking anything else from those who want their old school jobs... I mean whoever said that KoC ruined Maplestory for them, don't you think that's a bit of an exaggeration...?

     
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    Go play dms is a horrible answer. As fun as it can be, that server has already been beaten to a pulp. One of the best features of the old dms was its wipes. And other than that, last I checked (on my hiatus) it is very hard to find a low rated v83 server with more than 10 players online at the time.

    It's a good suggestion, taking into notice what Briceyo said at the first page and the current situation with v83 servers. Nostalgia is a good lure, but it disappears quite fast after playing the game for a while, which is when you want more as long as it doesn't break the game. And wipes are fun!

    Can't see the point of turning the idea completely down as if it was blasphemy. Half of the opposition have already quit and the reasons that remove nostalgia are minuscule in reality.

    Yet there appears to be a lot of opposition. At least here at the forum. So maybe wait until it seems like v62 has reached its last breath.
     
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    @ Blink - actually, no, the server wasn't becoming more inactive, it was becoming more active until *that* time of year happened, ie when numerous people went inactive or less active due to school/college/uni restarting.

    I've considered things seriously, and while I wouldn't mind Dojo and ToT, a large chunk of stuff that's in v. 83 and not in v62 is a huge DO NOT WANT! for me.

    Nostalgia? Well, I'd more or less quit GMS by the time v39 came out, and for me, something like v23 (the Zakum patch) would be true nostalgia of my favourite era of GMS, although I wouldn't say no to v24 (Omega Sector patch), I guess. However, I'm obviously not going to suggest we go with a v23 server, lol!

    Was I bored back then? Nope! Those where the days when people at Ludi PQ acted like they were all superior and pro and when getting 3rd job felt like a massive achievement. Ludi dungeon and the lava pits on the way to Zakum were exciting and dangerous places to explore with your guild. The negative (but now nostalgic) side was that if you wanted to train on certain maps, you'd be cc-ing a lot to a find a map without a hacker!!
     
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    In my opinion this server is good as it is. Everyone who joined here knew they were joining a v62 server. Private servers with earlier versions of Maplestory aren't ment to be 'updated'. They may however be improved to make it more enjoyable. I don't think arguing about which version/ private server is the best will do any good. Instead you could help suggest little things you'd like to see fixed/ added/improved.
    Currently MapleRoyals is one of the best pre-BBB servers out with the least amount of bugs. Especially considering the age of this server (close to 6 months old now?!). Matt, devs and GMs have been improving and making changes since the very start and in my opinion, ,because I play since pretty much day 1, this server is only going in a better direction and I hope it can continue to grow in this great way, with more great people everyday.
     
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    This would totally destroy the nostalgia... the effects would not be minuscule in any sense of the word. There were so many completely game-changing additions made, it would no longer be the same server. I chose this OVER v83s just because I love the nostalgic feel of v62. You guys act like the server is in desperate need of members... we've gained so many people in the past month or so. I know for a fact switching to v83 would cause us to lose a huge number of long-standing players especially since it necessitates a wipe. I guess you weren't around to see the LITERAL days of effort Matt put into making this server run on Linux, or the vast number of sources he had to sift through in order to find a decent one. Some of you must have forgotten all the effort he has put into fixing SO many things. When the server first started, we couldn't even get hired merchants to work, and now look we have freaking commands like !storage. To me, suggesting that Matt just trash all his hard work and start from scratch on a less nostalgic version is not only counter-intuitive to the best interests of the server but also very disrespectful to Matt himself.
     
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