Does someone seriously like jump quest as a requirement?

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What do you think of jump quest as a boss requeriment?

  1. Fun and challengin?

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  2. theyre just ANOYING

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  3. i do not love them, but didnt dislike them either

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    ??????????????????????? shake ur head harder dude, u must be drunk, what is this nonsense?
     
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    where did he stated anything about that? he didn't.
     
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    Like I said, we're discussing alternatives - https://royals.ms/forum/threads/guide-to-alternate-zakum-jump-quest.134574/

    Jump Quests will not be removed
    I understand you're not in favor of Jump Quest being removed, but please read the previous posts before saying "This topic is actually retarded"
     
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    ok dude, thanks for ur opinion. NEXT!
     
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    let it go pall, some ppl doesnt know how to put in others shoes, or try to understand someone else point of view
     
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    I spend 3 hours every time i want to zak if i need too. Thats the game. thats how it works. dont ruin it, don't make it easy and not fun.
    some people love JQ some people are better than others some people suck but EVERYONE do it.
    Thats just how the game works, just because you suck at it, doesn't mean it has to be made easy for u, thats not how the world works.

    I forget to feed my pet sometimes. should we add auto feed pet feature?

    I would easily answer properly to this crap but it's just not worth my time.
     
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    You can answer this first then

    What would you say to a guy that tried all these, but still couldn't complete the Jump Quest?

    Things i have tryed:
    - Spend ALOT time jumping
    - Buddy leading the way
    - Buddy dropping coins on the platforms
    - Having my gf next to me saying when the rock dropped (works but its toslow to make the jumps)
    - Colorblind color filter over the screen (helps a little bit)
    - Youtube jump videos including the slowmo ones
    - Whining to GM Yanir about my situation

    From https://royals.ms/forum/threads/zakum-jump-quest.100900/
     
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    told ya pall, ive met this kinda guys, "ur point of view, is not like mine, so, is crap"if u give them power , they become dictators, this guy pedro seems smart, but a close minded person..
     
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    Since Castellan Toad, is one of the few major bosses that do not require any pre-quest, it be nice if players that want to avoid the jump quest have do repeatable chain quest like getting Dragon Elixir for Horntail. So there is a push for players to do the jump quest instead of doing the chain quest.

    I think the pre-quest could be like collecting unstackable untradable like boss certificates [​IMG] ,killing Griffery or Kacchuu Musha and collecting 1 Black Essence [​IMG] from Captain Latanica etc.
     
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    like this idea
     
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    . Erm man u have to understsnd u live in a big world, with diferrnt cultures, lets not fight, its not our fault, let me put u nostalgia description of Real academia española
    La nostalgia (del griego clásico nóstos, regreso al hogar, y álgos, dolor) es descrita como un sentimiento de anhelo por un momento, situación o acontecimiento pasado.

    La nostalgia es referida comúnmente como un sentimiento que cualquier persona puede atravesar en cualquier etapa biológica. Es el sufrimiento de pensar en algo que se ha tenido o vivido en una etapa y ahora no se tiene, está extinto o ha cambiado. La nostalgia se puede asociar a menudo con una memoria cariñosa de la niñez, un ser querido, un lugar, un juego o un objeto personal estimado, o un suceso en la vida del individuo o grupo. If u read this nostalgia is not always happy, involves suffering memories...
     
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    I also have to say, the world nostalgia comes from latin... And nostalgic comes from nostalgia, so spanish language should be the correct definition, english dictionary is fucked up...from where i come nostalgia is ANY strong feeling about something happened in ur past, and yeah my grammar sucks(thanks google translate)
     
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    Something that happened in your past, you are just one hell of a piece.
    Do you miss not having jump quests?

    It's part of the game, always was, so u feel nostalgic by doing it again. When i first came to this server and ran my first jump quest here i felt nostalgic.
    You contradict yourself.

    and btw, dont come up with the argument 'nostalgia is different for each people' like LOOOOOOOOOOOL how can u feel nostalgic about something it didn't happen?

    1 advice: be quiet. it is better for you.
     
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    I like messing with the knockback and i-frames in the jump quests to advance. Since most obstacles only knock you one way every time, you can use that information to predict what will happen with each jump. (Except toad jq. That one is just awful). The rest of the jq's are totally fine in my opinion.
     
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    'I also have to say', the word nostalgia has its origin in greek. comes from 'pain' and return'.

    'Es el sufrimiento de pensar en algo que se ha tenido o vivido en una etapa y ahora no se tiene, está extinto o ha cambiado'

    The nostalgia definition is not different on each different language. I can speak english, spanish, french and a little bit of italian, german and a thing or two of latin, and I might not be a better spanish fluent speaker as you are, because it is not my first language, but I'm sure i understand everything you say in that language and i'm better off without google translate.

    'algo que se ha tenido o vivido ...... y ahora no se tiene ..... '

    hmm. did you miss not having jump quests? sientes falta de no tener jump quest en lo pasado?

    I really dont understand your argument about nostalgia, that card won't work for you.
    It's hard to debate with this guys, I wouldn't mind actually if u were capable of.

    And you said:
    'If u read this nostalgia is not always happy, involves suffering memories...'

    I swear I fell off my chair when i saw this.
    HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE? you don't understand your own investigation and your own quote. it's really pointless talking to you, i figured. you can't be serious.

    Involves suffering memories and it is not happy because you miss it. That feeling of infelicity happens because you miss it and you cant have it back.
    As i mentioned before, the word associates with 'pain'.

    I feel sad when i think about my high school. such great times, it was such an happy phase of my life, and knowing those godly times it won't ever happen again makes me wanna cry.

    Can you understand?
    entiendes?

    I'm afraid u wont...



    Edit: So yeah I used to feel sad when i think about the old maplestory times. I had so many friends and I had so much fun with old stuff, like working my ass off to finish zakum jump quest so i can get my zhelm... part of my childhood. that made me feel sad, nostalgic. because I knew i wont ever be able to play pre big bang again, until I met this server.
    This server helps with that, please dont ruin it.

    I feel like I have to extremely detail this for u, man.
    I'm sorry if i sound mad, but if you don't like jump quests or any other hard stuff just play a private server that allows you to skip those parts, im sure you'll find one. This one is about nostalgia and from what i've seen staff is very restricted when it comes to this stuff.
    Having to recharge furys only in nlc... I mean sure you can simplify and make it available every shop buuut that wouldn't be the same because that would not be nostalgic. Little things like this u can't change or the whole concept of being a nostalgic server would vanish down the toilet.
    And yeah, I do feel like the act of leeching ruins the concept, but what can we do? I don't leech, even if I were very very very funded, because I do not agree with it. But after all, it is a private server, and the rates have to be a little bit higher than it was.
     
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    @Twilaz why are you fluent in portuguese may I ask?
     
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    i wish everyone respond this trhead like u... "i dont share u point of view because of this, and this" Thank u.
    3 things id like to say(to everyone no just shane):
    1.- i never said that jq are objectively bad and frustrating, I said that I do not like them as an obligation and I wanted to know the opinion of the majority (now I see that maybe I'm missing out on a fun experience)
    2.-never said that I wanted to completely erase the jump quest, if not that most do not like them (which apparently is not so) put alternative quest, then who likes jump quest can continue to do, and who not, does the other (something similar to ht with the certificates) I still do not understand that some people complain (Pedro) would not affect them at all, you can continue with your jq and I would do the other, nor do you force me to Do what I do not want, nor do I force you to do what you do not want.
    3.-In the end what I really wanted to know is if people shared my opinion (that's why I did not put it in feedback) and if they did not know why they like it so much, in other words I wanted to LEARN

    P.D: Shane the toad JQ if nobody likes it, pls delete it :)
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    Pedro olivera, you are in your right to continue commenting, but it would seem rude to me not to tell you that your opinion does not matter much to me, if your way of arguing why you disagree with something is to say "stupid" to the others opinion ,Instead of arguing why yours is better, in addition to saying things like "I'm not going to spend my valuable time arguing against that" for me it makes you look like a spoiled and annoyin child. Especially because according to your profile you have joined the game this year.What it says to me or that you are an old banned user (which takes away your argument about not making things easier) or that you are truly new, what invalidates the option to say "please do not ruin this game" if you just tried it ...
     
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    Sairs press like 6 buttons every few seconds in horntail or zak or toad. Cannon -> Dismount -> rapid fire -> remount + octopus -> Cannon. So you cannot assume it's anything similar to "Spam-1-button-yolo-bring-me-popcorn" classes.

    I think the poll reflects the attitude of the community quite well. There are a minority of people who dislike JQs because of its challenging aspect but many of us here do enjoy the difficulty and thrill JQs provide. If the majority of player base hated it to the guts, staff might have taken a different approach but as you can see from the votes, things didn't turn out that way.

    You can wait longer to hear more people's opinion on this topic but I don't think the tide will shift much.
     
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    I argued way better than you, that is my point. I said it's pointless to debate with you because you can't argue. your arguments are not valid because you pull out the nostalgia card when the nostalgia argument just disaproves your own point.
    I might be wrong tho. But I'm sure your not defending your point well, that I am 100% sure.
    I didnt commit any fallacy or whatsoever, but you are, by presuming I am new to the game, and because of that my opinion won't matter.

    Like I said earlier I could argue properly. But Im almost pretty sure that I would win this debate because you lack coherence so much that there's no point... I have said this before and you don't understand


    and What if i am new to the game?

    'ad hominem'
    look what it means and tell me whos doing it, me or you.
     
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    Sou sim :D
    Bom saber que falas portugues.

    Um grande abraço do teu portuguese speaker fella
     
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