An HTP could be up to 13/13/13/13 clean, as its natural stats vary from 6-8 (unless I'm somehow remembering this incorrectly). But even then, a 28 all stat pendant, which would take a ridiculous amount of luck, is not going to be as good, damage-wise, as even your nerfed MoN. 5att will easily have at least the same affect as a 25stat HTP on your range, and when you add in the +6 to your stats, it's going to win. The HTP has a nice defense buff, but lets be honest, the vast majority of players are going to go for whatever boosts their damage the most. MoNs would have to be nerfed even further the keep them from overpowering HTPs, but I don't think that's the best solution. I like the idea of making the bosses drop a different, non-contrasting item. My issue with Specs is that they'd really only be the best item for one class, Warriors, maybe STR dits. Because they only have 3 slots, and normally come with (0-2) STR and (0-2) DEX, they cap out, if chaosed perfectly at 17/17. By contrast, a perfect Rac mask would give 31 DEX. Obviously both of these are highly unlikely, but for most thieves and all mages who don't use STR at all, the best choice is obviously the Rac Mask. For bowmen it would depend whether or not their other equips gave them enough STR to use their best bow, but if so the Rac mask is superior for them as well. IMO, some potential items could be Broken Glasses, a custom face acc with 1/1/1/1 base stats, or Circle of Ancient Thought/Strength. These would not be OP, but are good enough that they would be a strong incentive to do the PQ.
@David, the only eye acc scroll you can actually add dex with is the eye for accuracy 30% (+1 dex) which would make a raccoon 7 dex max (unless you chaos) However chaosing the specs would add 2 stats you can use. Which makes them a lot better to chaos instead. Since they already have clean stats (no need to pass a 30% on it) and add more than 1 stat. Also, the specs with the godly system can have +6 dex/str clean. However, if possible I'd like to see the specs with +1 to all stats clean average instead of just dex and str.
Chaosing them was the idea. And like I said, even with the godly system Specs remain entirely useless to the majority of the server (since the majority is NLs/Mages). Adding +1 to the Specs would basically make them the same as the Broken Glasses I suggested, which I am fine with.
I'm totally behind this idea! I think it'd be a great way to motivate people to actually level to be able to get the rewards!
Do the players want more pre-BB content? Of course they do. Can the busy developers spare the time and energy to implement a complex PQ from a future version? Hmm. Don't get too excited yet.
Its not about the time it takes to be implemented into the game. Its about what dev are working on and what are their priority If we push for this I believe that we will see this implemented eventually.
I had an idea while talking to Kat in skype. Untradeable. (MoNs were made untradeable some time after they were initially released and I believe it would make it a better option here) MoN changed to 6 of all stats, 5 attk/8 magic attk (as magic attack is worth 'less' in v62 than wep attack) To keep it from being affected by the godly system, and to change it up a bit and make it more difficult to obtain: Bosses drop an item that could be traded in for the pendant- and it would require x amount of items for the pendant. (an example) Say each boss dropped 1 (item), but you needed 10 to get one pendant. That would make it worth doing the PQ- and not everyone would be able to get the necklace so easily.
It's a shame that a nerf must happen to MoNs because Night Lords DPS is calculated differently. I was thinking something along the lines of this as well, but more so completing a certain amount of PQs in order to obtain a MoN or Spectrum Goggles to keep the value of these end game equips.
I think CWKPQ has been brought up on more than one occasion. Someone who claimed MoNs were overpowered (in one of those previous threads): I responded with: Just my thoughts. TL; DR Yes, CWKPQ should be added in and MoNs should be left as is unless a magic attack increase is feasible.
This PQ is possibly THE most entertaining of Pre-BB PQs... other than Dojo. It really brought guilds together and there was a sense of accomplishment clearing out your classes' respective rooms and later beating down on multiple bosses at once. If CWKPQ were to be added, I'm sure everyone (even the haters now) would have a good time attempting it. #CWKPQHYPE
