How Hp/Mp washing is ruining the game imo.

This server has chosen it's death a long time ago. We who didn't like it left(and check back once in a while with false hopes.)

 

I mentally quit when I realised I had to wash my night lord to be able to be on par with others, and to boss and just survive stuff

Washing is not for me, feel like this mechanic. (intended time sink) should be shifted to something more enjoyable and productive

I understand royals can’t release updates weekly like live maple to keep you occupied and keep you logging in, but there must be a different route you can go down

When you find yourself leeching 6 hours a day and merching to spend it all on HP it kills my fun and excitement to even log on

That’s my My opinion anyway

 

im kinda new to this server i have a few characters 50-80 i enjoy the nostalics the rpg the grind the pqs the market i enjoy everything exept the stupid wash system. it is very hard for new players

 

I'm kind of impartial to HP washing personally, as I play a dark knight, but I have definitely had several friends who ended up not playing simply due to the investment needed to wash to actually play certain classes.

 

hp washing isnt ruining the game, not being able to boss on NVIDIA cards without VM is whats ruining the game. This is the real issue here

 

It really is a choice. Yea if you do not wash you are more then likely not going to be taken on boss runs. But there are guilds who do runs with people who dont wash. That negative mindset wont get you anywhere. It's a game enjoy it for what it is! It does not take a whole lot to make enough to wash a warrior. Put the effort in to make the money and wash if you want too. Don't tread on other people's accomplishments and goals.

 

sorry for necro this thread but i had some points i wanted to add.

hp washing does suck. people who have already invested billions into washing characters should just suck it up, because it is a fundamentally boring and gatekeeping aspect of the game.

why should people have to invest time and effort into a playing a class they DO NOT want to play, selling leech for HOURS, simply to be able to play the class they actually want to play? how is that in any way a good and fun part of this game?

not to mention the additional requirement of mp washing for NL/archers, increasing the amount of time that players do not get to enjoy their class. how is leeching to 135 while stacking INT any fun at all?

 

You can’t give people enough hp to tank the top boss. It throws off the entire balance of the game, and will only destroy the server completely. And not to mention it makes the game way to easy! In my opinion, they should make ap resets only work on the 4 stats, not hp/mp. once that is complete, make a series of quests (preferably 100)that reward you with 250hp/50mp (50hp/250mp if mage) for each quest completed. The quest will start off simple and get progressively harder.The key now is to design the quest line so that it is a solo activity. EXAMPLE: kill 1,000,000 monsters in a map only accessible to 1 character. No parties, no buyable items, no easy way to go about it. But let’s be real here, even if you do this, people will STILL complain. Even when the path is the same for everyone...

 

i really like this idea. my main issue with hp washing is that i don't get to play a class that i actually want to play. if there is a quest line or some other method of achieving hp gain (i really like maplesaga's method of hp gain, each time you kill a boss you get +hp) that is not restricted by class (ie selling leeching) then i'm all for it.

hp washing in its current state is just unfun and a boring gatekeeping mechanic. let me play the class i want to play; i don't have weeks/months to invest into a class i do not want to play

 

Simply answer: The do NOT have to do at all what you just described there!

What is this new negative attitude of everyone, that you HAVE to do this and that and what not? Just play the game and chill. Yes, I get it randoms will reject you from boss runs. I get rejected all the time cause I am too weak, have no mules, or simply no Drk is around. So what? get over it.

I never sold leech and i did only minimal or zero washing on my first few characters. Just cause, I care more about the health of the game than my own wealth and wanted to play the experience for nostalgic reasons.

The point is, for instance, I just like the game and like to play it. So I just pick a class that I like and play it and have fun. If I decide to make a washed character, then I do this cause I want to and it is fun to me to have insane HP amounts (for instance, I want a bucc to join random ppl at AufHaven, but this is a super special case). If I just wanna enjoy the mid game, I R>PPQ or other fun activities and enjoy that, or get sad about how few ppl respond . But then I just have to wait, not the whole planet revolves around oneself and if no one wants to play at the moment, then fine, I can do something else. It is as easy as this. Just have FUN guys!

Just play the class that you want to play. You guys should really be more positive and less negative. Cause this "I MUSSSTTTT HAVE THIS!!11!" attitude is just hindering you and others in your vincinity to enjoy this game.

The gate keeping is only at super high lvls and special cases. If you do not have months to play the game, then GMS would be the better experience for you, honestly!

 

Yeah it sucks I'm leveling a sair now and do like 1 damage cause of all the int, it ruins the whole leveling process at low lvls

 

Just make a HB mule.

 

Kind of a half solution since if that mule dies or DCs you're boned.

 

actually buff mules also ruin the game.
but thats another topic

 

Just put all ur str AP into Hp instead, EZZZZZ

 

Answer yourselves this question.

If two players playing the same class that had the same ranges and the only difference was one had 25k hp and the other only had 7k and you were trying to horntail which would you take?

If your party was already set with no drk as is very very common these days theres no way youre taking the guy with less hp. Theres more work involved to bring this guy, along with a higher chance of failure since they are more likely to die due to less hp.

This example happens all the time when people recruit parties. Ive seen people take less dps for the safety of the dps having more hp. Having more hp is taking the path of least resistance when playing the game. Is it more time consuming? Yup. Is it more expensive? You betcha. Is it more efficient for yourself and parties you join in the future to not need hb thusly can bring higher dps or not needing to log another mule? Of course.


How do i propose to fix it on Royals? This far into its life theres zero way to fix it without first starting with a complete wipe and then wed be able to discuss options. Theres nothing we can do now with the mindset of the community and the current condition the market is in that would allow for any real change to flourish, which is why i personally am not apposed to a 2nd world being added. One with hp washing adjustments taken into effect befor the launch for a healthy transition into late game progression instead of what we have now

 

WIPE HYPE

 

u mad bro?

In all seriousness, I agree with the spirit of this, but I don't see a solution in the current state of the server...and a wipe is not the answer. Wipes slaughter playerbases overnight.

 

Change the system where the more chairs you have collected the more HP you have.