So I'm planning on making both a Night Lord and Buccaneer and I'm planning on having both their HPs at 12K to tank most of the bosses in MapleRoyals. I just want to double check the math and would like to hear your guys input because I've never washed a character before. For the base HP, I'll be adding a Silver Deputy Star since it adds 100 HP. How much HP do Night Lords get per AP Reset considering that I'll hoard all the MP then wash it all out at once? I'm going with 24 in this equation, but the number is all over the place. Here are some notable equips I'll be using to wash: 19 Int Green Bandana (Level 10) 15 Int Work Gloves (Level 10) 15 Int Earrings (Level 15) 18 Int Bathrobe (level 20) 10 Int Shield (Level 20) 7 Int Wand (Level 8) 8/16 Int Cape (Level 25/50) 11 Int Mask (Level 45) 5 Int Silver Deputy Star Add all those up and I have exactly 120 Int per level up at a clean base at Level 50. Buccaneer Base HP at 160: 4000/7810 (After Improve MaxHP) MP/Washes Needed for 12,000 HP: (12,000-7810)/40= 105 Washes/1680 MP Night Lord Base HP at 160: 4412 MP/Washed Needed for 10,000 HP: (10,000-4,412)/24 = 237 Washes/2844 MP I want to know how much Base Int I'll need for both classes and to recheck my math.
For bucc at least, Goofy posted this a while back and I've been using it as reference every time. You'll need 170-ish INT if you want to tank a bf hit by 130. 8k HP clean -> need 5k from washing -> 125 washes -> need 2000 extra mp My bucc has 84 base int, and gets *just* enough int with gear to hit 160 exactly. Night Lords...well, we suck at bigfoot honestly. And you should never need to take a hit from bigfoot. There's no invince frames to try and time correctly like a bucc (which means you could get hit if you slack off), you have haste AND flash jump and you're ranged. I've done bigfoot several times and even though it sucks because we miss several stars per throw to invince frames, it's easy enough. You can even FJ over Bigfoot himself if he gets too close. Your alternative to bigfoots as a Night lord would be Anego. And anego you only need to be able to take 5.6k from her gun/ranged magic attack. Her slap and touch can deal over 12-16k I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I've never looked all I know is that it *hurts*. Crow deals about 8k as well, so 8.5k or so and you should be safe if you want to try and kill him as a NL.
All the money you have...why not go for as much as possible on the NL? You'll need 18k for if/when pink bean ever comes out (it's a stretch, but still a possibility). Bucc will have more like ~8800 at 160 (according to the videos/screenshots I've seen). Depending on what your total int comes out to after equips/mw, I would get a better bathrobe to bump you up to the next multiple of 10 INT. 18 int is super mediocre compared to the rest of your equips.
12k is more for tanking Horntail without Hyber Body if that ever reaches that point where I might have to go Horntail Running without Hyper Body. Since Night Lords keep their distances anyway, I am a little hesitant on getting 12k HP anyway. I see your point and I don't feel like wasting several billion mesos and hours of farming AP Resets just to have a redundant amount of HP. How much does Horntail do with it's Magic Attack? Because I'm not made of money... Anything beyond 12k is a huge waste in my opinion because you can tank all the bosses that actually matters.
As far I know, with HB you just need about 6k HP to do horntail. Without HB I assume you'd need another 3.6k HP- so 9.6k minimum. Shoot for 10k if you want to be on the safe side. I'm almost at 10k Hp with HB and I lightly washed a little here and there from 9x to 15x.
I'll probably change the goal to be 10,000 because of this. 12,000 was more for tanking Bigfoot, but since I'm just going to leech it until 160, I see no point. I'm just thinking that, in the worse case scenario, I'll need to HT without Hyber Body on my future Night Lord. I want to be prepared if that ever were to happen because Horntail Runs can become pretty sporadic in the future. I have the funds to get to 12k HP, but I'd like to save it for higher end gear or even funding an entirely different class. Rite? But honestly, it gets me to 120 Int at Level 50 and investing in a 28 Int Bathrobe doesn't sit well for me and my empty meso wallet.
Well, you need ~24 mp per level to get to your goal. That's 240 int including equips. I'd go for 150 base to make up for the early equip-less levels. I may create a spreadsheet that takes ALL factors into account if I can figure out the formulae.
I recalculated the math for MTT future Bucc and I have almost enough, but not quite. I think I might give it some base Into because I need to take in account that I might miss since level ups with my Int gear on. Also, are you certain than 8.8k is a clean range?
Just to let you know , after the tail / legs are down , max hit will be 5k ish , (7k ish , before) , so if HT bothers you , you can be calm .
I'd refer to this thread regarding anything to do with resets being that it provides the correct formulas and other related topics: http://royals.ms/forum/threads/fully-revised-hp-washing-guide.8286/ Thieves have high avoidability and with shadow shifter maxed there's an even lower chance to actually get hit.
Wouldn't you need at least 9k HP to survive Horntail without Hyper Body? I've looked through that and got my calcuations through that guide. NLs might have high avoidability, but one hit is all I get.
I washed mine to 12k by 137 or so I remember I kept adding int until equips + base were enough to wash three times a level. If you wash 3 times a level to 160 you'd have much more than 12k, closer to 15. Also you should wash as you go because I think the rewash formula (from hoarding) is less effective for thieves according to the HP wash guide
Hey! just my 2cents worth just ytd my NL reached lvl 120, with 12012 hp now! (check accomplishment for the screenshot) ^^ i washed it all the way up till this lvl and have total int 600, with mw and int equip of 82INT. Point 1. Washing by level is better as you get 20-24hp per ap. Point 2. washing by hoarding is more convenient but you will only get a static rate of 16hp...the loss with your estimated 237 wash is about 237x4 = 948hp!! (taking the minimum difference of hp per lvl, you should be losing more as sometimes you can get 24hp instead of 16hp.) hope this helps P.S I;m not sure about Bucc's hp wash rates
So I guess getting anything over even 10k is more or less useless. So hoarding AP and adding it all at once to HP at 160 isn't ideal? That's my thinking behind it now because Horntail apparently doesn't do much. What do you mean washing by level? I'm planning on hoarding both MP and AP since I'm going to be leeching my future NL until 155/160. Would that still give me 20-24 since I'm using my AP to wash rather than my AP Resets?
You can wash a bit more if you want to tank a BF hit (not worth for my opinion tho) , but 10k hp should be good
ohh! i didn't know you were intending to hoard ap! if that's the case, it doesn;t matter when you wash, you'll still get the 20-24hp per wash as long as you use the ap gained from levelling up or job advancement, you'll get the better range of wash, that is, 20-24hp
I'm not planning on doing any BF simply because looking for one waste so much time and could be better spent just straight leeching. I'll save them for the people who actually need them. That's the plan. But, I'm not sure what the difference will be if I were to add AP to HP right when I level up and if I were to add all my unused AP in the end at one. I'm not going to be using AP Resets to reset my HP, I'm only going to do that for MP. I'm going to hoard all my AP and add it all in once I reach 155.
