Hello Players and Admins, I'm kinda new to the server and just here heared more and more about HP Washing. I'm level 106 and spent a lot of effort in the game and really love this awesome game but got kinda depressed when heared that my nightlord may be useless with no hp washing. I had dreams about being able to solo horntail and heared i wont be able to do it if i wont hp wash, not even in level 200.. I think hp washing just make the game unfair for those who couldnt hp washing because its something you cant fix or do in high levels, i mean if youre poor and want to be strong you can always get richer at any level and buying good equips but if you didnt hp wash from low level you can never turn back and get the HP you could have no matter how much mesos and nx you have. I think itll be a great idea to fix the hp washing thing and make it unneccesary anymore for everyone.. it really frustrating because i spent a lot of time and effort on my player . what you think about rearrange and hp and mp of every player so it become fair and equal to everyone depends on their job and remove the hp washing system? maybe even open a donating request like headstart with a goal so people who agree can donate to the developers so they can easily change it after recieve the goal. Please Matt thinl about it, it really would be much more fair to all players, Ive never heard about hp washing when played the old maplestory and it really tough . I really think it'll be a very good decision to totally remove the hp washing system and find something better than ap resets to encourage players to vote everyday, like double exp, special events you can join with an amount of nx or anything creative you can think about. Please Matt and other Admins, think about it, it'll be much more fair play to everyone. Oh And I just thought about a great idea, Maybe just keep the hp washing system but make it fair that every player at every level can still hp wash and get the max amount of hp he could achieve. for example a player who reached level 120 who didnt hp wash will get the max amount of mp like he was hp washed and countinue recieve max mp at each level after so he can hp wash at any level even at 200. or you can make it harder to get max mp to only those who became level 150 or 180 and then every player will be able to have max hp no matter what level they start at. what do you think about it?
Hey @Matt what do you think? i accidently made a conversation instead of a thread before so reposted the post as a thread. I think it'll make the game fair for everyone at every level..
this has been up for debate for a long time, and there is even a big thread about it on "Feedback" subforum, you can watch it and see all kind of creative solutions people proposed to eliminate the HP washing system from the game. So far there hasnt been a major change, except maybe the HP quest, that boost your base HP (500 for Arch\Thief\Pirate and 1k for warriors). Personally I dont think your post will have such impact because many have tried and failed, and the HP washing seems like its here to stay. What I can tell you is HP washing is only 'crucial' on some very specific contents of the game, such as neo tokyo and HT. As a disclaimer i will admit that I hp wash, and you wont catch me lie and say that its not important at all; because most of the people who say "Oh hp wash is overrated and not mandatory, you dont have to wash if u know how to play" are full of shit, because 100% of them wash. And in conclusion ill add that you can wash from any lvl, like even if you're 120, you can still wash and wear int gear. up untill around 160 you wont get near HT so why worry so much? find some decent int gear, wear it when u lvl, and as soon as u lvl just pump 5 points to HP and AP reset it to main stat, you'll be surprised how much HP you can get in a short period. Combine this with HP quest, natural extra MP to wash from and also HP from gear (MoN, BFC, Belt etc) and you'll get pretty close to that 8k hp mark
Stop complaining about hp washing, the only reason i can conclude is that either you’re a newly joined player or who do not commit enough time to this game and wanted a easy way out. Do u think its fair to players who have who have spent so much time amd effort to washed to 20k hp or even 30k hp as nl? Everytime i see players disccussing about removing hp wash or whatsoever just pissed me off as i have stayed at lv70 and voted for 2years since August 2016 before i actively start to play. What i can suggest u is to get the hp quest done and for equipments wise use these. Face accessory - shiny rudoph nose Earrings - Maple anniversary earrings Eye accessory - cracked dimension glasses ( need alot of time for this) Rings - 2karat ring , zombie army ring , pumpkin pie ring. Cape- blackfist cloak Pendant - Mark of naricain Belt - Black belt With these things done u should get around 8-9k hp at lv200 as nl which i don see a point for u to not able to survive at HT. Can also neo tokyo butbjave to pay attention to boss skills and don touch the bosses.
My main problem is that you have no turn back if not hp washing and this is the biggest unfair thing man!
My first char about 3 months ago is bowman then till I play to 9x people tell me that I need to wash, at that time I said why I need to wash, I wont wash, then he said this char will soon become my mule char and now itz my mule F4, and I have to start a new mage to sell leech to fund a new wash char. Itz kind of wasting time but seems like nothing will change. Cause if change now it will become unfair to people already start all again
I really understand what you saying but I think the most unfair thing is having no turning back for not hp wash unless.open new character. itll by justice to fix it altheiugh i know it wont be an easy thought to those who made effort to hp wash. But i just had a great idea which will keep hp wash need in the game but let every player start hp washing even at level 200 and then it'll be win win for all . Please read my new idea and say what you think there https://royals.ms/forum/threads/a-great-idea-about-hp-wash-issue.149616/#post-885303
There are quite a number of lv200 nl players who did not hp wash at all, some of them started a new hp washing nl journy. Im not discouraging u but if u should remake a nl if u wanted to enjoy the ht,neo tokyo content at earlier lvs. Make a mage to 120 and a hs mule to 83 and start leeching nl, it takes about a month or two if u just spend two-three hrs a day.
Bro, there are alot other classes that u need in order to solo ht. Even if u have a 30k hp nl. Least u need is a seduce mule, sharp eyes mule, bishop. Crash mule is a bonus. U are definitely too early to set ur goal as solo ht....
OP ive been nice and tried to explain to you that it is what it is, but you keep saying its not fair. Dude did u solo HT on GMS? Why would you think you can do it here? cause its a private server? The most annoying thing is new comers, who literally play for a week, and already feel INJUSTICE because they cant solo the end game boss?! There are players here who are active since 2014, and even they cant solo ht, what are you talking about? Why play a game for a week and already demand changes? if you dont like it, move on and look for a server with x1000 dmg x1000 drop x1000 exp. Ive re-made like 3 chars already, and ive been playing on and off for more than 3 yrs, and I dont complain because I know that if I wanna be a top tier player i have to work
everyones 1st character is no hp wash including myself because we have no money. you can make a bishop in future for money and leech yourself a new character with hp wash i think its quite fair everyone have to work for it and considering free 8k nx a day thats basically free mesos you dont get anything for free in real maple just think of making your 1st character as getting knowledge and experience of maple royals. (you can still enjoy your NL but you cant solo ht. there are many things to do. i dont ht and i still had fun it will be easier when you make your 2nd character
The fact that you had to stay at lvl 70 and vote for 2 years before you could “actively start to play” tells us a lot about why HP washing isn’t exactly a wonderful feature. Maybe some of you are brushing OP off because he’s new but some of his points are valid: - if you don’t start early you can’t get back the “lost” HP at high levels there is no turning back - investing a lot of time and effort on a character only to realize you get gated from several endgame content is frustrating Not everyone thinks it’s enjoyable to remake the exact same class just to get extra HP. Although I must agree that removing HP washing is too radical at this point but let’s not pretend everything is fine when it comes to HP washing.
He has some points true, but then again, as Carney said, none of us washed our first char in this game because we were clueless about HP wash as well. So we made new chars. And with them we made more mistakes, and you keep making mistakes untill you learn this game. The difference between us and OP is that we decided we're not casual players, but more hardcore and invested in the game, and the fact that we had to make a new char didnt discourage us from making one, because thats the difference between a casual player and an invested player! Im not bashing him for just being new, im saying that you cant be a casual player and expect to "solo ht". If you wanna go hardcore and solo end game bosses you have to be hardcore and creative with your methods. This includes a lot of time consumed on self leech, creating mules, ho washing, getting perfect gear and yes! maybe re-make a char once or twice and etc; thats not something a casual player does. And we both know that you dont need to passively vote for 2 yrs to gain enough funds to wash to 30k, you can sell leech and main other chars in the meantime.
Back then when i played MapleSEA i died so many times at HT when im around 170( took me like 3years). The nx are not free, each ap resets are about usd2 in msea. I quit msea knowing that i can never ht as i will not spend this much time and money on remaking one. But u can ht here even if u did not do any hp washing with the royals staff added hp eq/quest/medals. Spoiler No regrets as i have accomplished my childhood dream here
This will probably be an unpopular opinion but I think HP washing is an investment in your character. It costs mesos, and it's takes some planning and effort to get your character ready for HT, but there are numerous ways to do this. What's the difference between raising mesos to get gear vs raising mesos to get your character ready for HT? You need a minimum damage range in many cases to attend a HT group, so why is requiring a minimum health that different? @OP this server is built on community, much like the original maplestory was. You need other peoples help to kill bosses, get skill quests done, etc. If you really only want to play solo why not play Reboot or another server? Just remember that community and struggling to reach your goals is a part of a very rewarding process and HP washing is no different.
