Hero Guide

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  1. LEMON MAN
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    Crash would have more use now that it breaks wep cancel right?
     
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    What's the secret exactly to the Stonetooth Sword ?

    I can find a 127 Att Sparta for way cheaper and can wear a shield next to it as well. Both have attack speed at 'fast' so I'm not sure why do people prefer the ST ?
     
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    2H-swords have a higher multiplier than 1H-swords, so 1 attack = more damage range for 2H than 1H.

    i need to double check the numbers but I believe the difference is ~15%. This means with equivalent STR/DEX/Attack Speed, the 1H+shield needs 15% more total attack than the 2H in order to out-range it.

    Simple example:
    If we have a 100 att ST vs a 100att Sparta, the shield needs 100 x 0.15 = 15 att+ to be better than the ST. Easy enough.
    Let's scroll our weapons and have 125 ST and a 125 Sparta. Now, the shield needs to be 125 x 0.15 = 18-19att+ shield to be better. Doable, but keep in mind this is with no other attack equips and no attack pots.


    More realistic example (some funds):
    Now let's say we have 10att wg, 5 att shoes, and 7attcape, and heartstoppers (+60attack). Total = 82 attack from equips+buffs
    So 125 ST/sparta weapon + 82 equips/buffs = 207 attack. Now, the shield needs to be 207 x 0.15 = 31att+ shield to be better. Holy mother of f*** that's a lot of 10%'s and chaos scrolls.

    As you can see, with better attack equips theoretically it will become impossible for the shield to "catch up".

    tbh a whole guide can be written about this (also comparing spears)...if there isn't already
     
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    Thanks for the explanation !
     
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    Hello, I got 2 questions.

    I am about to reach 9750 hp and I am currently at lv 69. When I get to 9750, do I keep using INT gear when lvling? I am new to HP washing.

    I currently have 4 base dex and can´t hit anything. Should I aim for Dex scrolled gear?
     
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    Here's one thing that I remember in my days of a Hero in MS that I ask other Heroes in Royals-- that I wish could be answered but all they got is DPS in the brain when it comes to 1h or 2h weapons with Brandish:

    ~meso How far does it reach? ~meso

    No, I'm not talking about damage range, I'm talking about distance.

    If I remember in my days of experimenting as a Hero in MS, 2h Brandish had a wider overhead range and farther reach than 1h Brandish, who'd only attack what's in front.

    I ask this because part of being a Hero is being an in-between of a Paladin and Dark Knight
    When it comes to reach, where Paladins have to be basically touching the target, and Dark Knights can reach with the elegance of a long scratching stick reaching for the tv remote across a room, Hero was more of the middle ground.

    I want to know if there's a difference, again, between 1h and 2h when it comes to this.
     
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    This is a good question. Taking Zakum as an example, I know that with 2h sword, it's possible to hit 3 zak arms at a time, two in front of you and one behind I believe? I think that with 1h sword it's only possible to hit two in front. I would like some fellow hero mains to verify this, and if possible, provide info on other bosses like HT.
     
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    With 1H you can still hit the arms as 2h though yoy need to know the exactly spot.
     
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    Okay, so the range is only a little smaller, good to know.
     
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    One thing that I recall being useful about the overhead reach of 2h Brandish is specially with bosses that like to hop or fly

    Like Geist Balrog flying
    or Bigfoot's hopping

    The 2h Brandish can reach them over the head easier, specially to give them knockback stun and pin, than a 1h Brandish that just strikes ahead and doesn't like to shave the top.

    That's at least what I can remember off of it.
     
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    Can you do a potion breakdown? I'm at 8.2k HP and I'm not sure which potion is best economically for me.
     
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    Hi, I just recently started and am now choosing my 2nd job as warrior, I just want to know how relevant still is this guide? Has a lot changed from when this guide is posted? Thanks
     
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    The info in this guide is still generally correct; you can follow the skill build at least. However, a few things to note are:

    -Axes have been buffed on this server. Axe mastery gives 75% mastery, and level 100 and 110 2h axes have been buffed to normal speed. The consensus on the server is that axes are cheap, but swords are still more viable.

    -Flame Sword is the best fast speed-4 1h sword.

    -Warrior shields now have 10 slots, buffed from 7 slots.

    Also, I wouldn't rely on the training section of the guide too much. It's probably better to ask specific questions if you have them.
     
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    Hello Heros,

    Where is the best map or way to make mesos?
    I’m 140 Hero with flame sword whose damage range is ~5.2k.

    I know the best way is to make mage and sell leech, but I don’t wanna do it cuz I love hero.

    I’m grinding at Rexton and selling leather for now.

    Thanks!
     
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    It means that now at max ACA we'll recover 2 orbs with 80% chance instead of 60%, so effectivley we'll reach max combo much faster
     
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    Is Final Attack worked now? If the skill is useless back then why would anyone like to fix it or it is all about nostalgic feeling?
     
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    It works, it's just that it is useless as not having it and putting more points into other skills is better.
     
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    in 2nd job i dumped my remaining points after both masteries and boosters into rage and got it to 15. would it be like the worst idea ever to put 5 of those wayward 3rd job points into rage to get it to 12 watk so i can save money on elixirs while solo grinding? idk what else i'm gonna spend them on after combo haha
     
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    Don’t worry you can even put 4th job SPs into 2nd job if you want. Hero has too much useless skills you can just put whatever you like.
     
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