You'll want to aim for 60 at least, so you get one "wash" every 2 levels. Thieves need 12 MP per wash, so 120 int would be one per level- or 60 for every other level. I dont know the math on if that'd be enough but if you just want to go to HT at a decent level (15x) then that should be plenty.
The guide isn't accurate to my experience in this server, no. I have never played a NL. Bowmen, though require ~50 washes to HT at 155. NLs gain more HP per wash and per level up than bowmen do (about 130% of what bowmen do, actually) and about the same for their job advances. You will have enough spare MP without adding base int or investing in int equips beyond zhelm and dep star by 150 to do the ~30 washes it takes for a NL to have 5.6k base at 155. If you would like to be extra sure of this, feel free to grab a few extra equips (wooden wand with 60%s is 7 int for only a few mill, raggedy cape and cape int 60% are cheap, fail scrolled 10 int overalls shouldn't cost much either) or add 20 base or so. The "necessity" of HP washing is incredibly overblown.
how would method one even be possible though? 5 ap resets per level? you would have to have at least 680 int in equips to keep up that momentum, since each one takes 12 out and 120int equals 12 mp but even if you only do one ap reset per level this would mean you would only have gained an extra around 2100 as a thief at level 120. how is that supposed to help you enough to boss?
Realistically, you only need around 6k for any class to boss because Pink Bean isn't out and you can survive Horntail easily. Just hoard all your AP and wash it all in at once. I'm planning on hitting 10k on my future NL and that should be enough to survive Horntail without hyper body. That's not asking for much. You need like 300 Int per level and that can easily be achieved with base Int and equips. Just have a Bishop or enough money to buy leech and you're good.
sorry, I'm trying to get a good idea of what to do here(trying to make a NL)... so, from level 1 to whenever, you would be putting your AP into Int to make you base int more, using a bish leech since you wouldn't be able to do anything really with no luk. why would you only need 300 altogether? wouldn't it be 700 for 5 washes per level? why would you hoard the AP and do it all at once when the levell up ap for HP would be so much more for thieves? and how much would be significant foe equips and how much base INT do you actually need to put in?
My plan for an NL is 10k HP at level 150 so calculating all of that together, I would need around 3000 extra MP would would equal out to 100 level with 300 Int, easily done by Level 50-150 with 100 Int in equips and 200 Int base. To my understanding, there's no difference in adding AP to HP at any level so hoarding is fine.
so you would begin hoarding AP at level 50 (after you have the 100 Int equips and 200 Int base boost), leech until 150, put all of the hoarded AP into hp, and then start washing the mp out into luk? would you then take the ap out of your int as well and put into luk or sex?
I believe that's plenty's plan. Alternatively, you can add 20-30 base int, get a zhelm and a dep star right away at level 50, train your character like normal and actually play the game, and then wash 40 times or so (you would have the potential to wash a few more, though) and have enough HP to survive HT with Hyper body, papulatus touch, and anego's gun aka all the damage in the game that you "need" to take. You won't be able to take touch from BF or slap from anego, but there's no reason you should be close enough for that to happen on a NL.
can I instead of adding to hp add to normal stat like str or luk AND take take points from mp using ap resets and put them into my normal stat like str or luk for an even higher than average damage but same hp?
No, you can't just create ap from thin air like that, just like you can't take ap out of, for example Luk if you have never added to luk. HP and MP share the pool of stat points you have added to either of them, which is what makes washing possible. So you can only remove as many points from MP as the number of points you have added to HP.
I've got 2 questions about HP washing on my future hero and hope that you guys can help me with them. My apologies if they were answered before, but i just did a quick search through the forums and couldn't find it. I'm looking at the skill Improving Max HP Increase and the description on bbb hidden street is: This skill boosts up the amount of increase on MaxHP after each Level UP, or AP used on MaxHP. Questions 1: Does this mean that I should hp wash after this skill is maxed? Question 2: Should i HP wash immediatly after this skill is maxed and HP wash each time it becomes possible or should i HP wash everything once i am around 120 once i really want the HP. Since according to the calculations method 1 only gives 50-54 and method 2 gives 50-55. So according these calculations method 2 would be more beneficial, even if it's only a little bit better. But does the skill improving max HP improve the max HP u gain each level based upon the HP you have or based upon the HP you would normally get? I'm sorry if it isn't clear but english isn't my first language. Hope you guys can help me.
You should start levelling with int as soon as possible, but not start putting ap into hp until you max improving hp increase on a warrior or bucc. Other than that (and at all times for other classes) it wont matter when you do the washes.
Hello guys, I was looking at how much HP i could get while washing in order to make a HP Warrior (in addition to all the blooding I'm gonna do for it) And i made up this set of tables that you guys might find interesting. It can show the total MP gained for any amount of int, How many AP resets it'll take to completely wash out your bonus MP anywhere from lv 1 - 155 and just how much bonus HP you will get from those washes for Pirates / Warriors / Bowman (i didn't do thieves because i wasn't 100% sure on what formula to stick in). Beware, it's 11 huge tables. *Unfortunately i can't upload the excel doc. directly to the forum (don't know why i thought i could), If anybody has a suggestion of where i could upload it to for public access, i'll try and put it up for download there*
AP Resets do not take in account the Improve HP skill visibly, but you will get around 50-55 afterwards if you have that skill maxed.
