Map stealing, map selling, and the ~mapowner system

Ok. I wont ignore ur comment and ill respond.
"whe cant solve the issue".....?what issue?
The owner of thread asks to have a bit more time to do things and keep holding a. Map, ieatemokids explained perfectly why that wasnt the idea of mappwning here imo. Ok, then we started discussing why keep the owning of a map when u cced is nonsense, and u stated that, helps to get hackers(wich is not the main reason this mechanic exists) its a valid point, but it lets ppl exploit the mechanic. Theres ppl who hate hackers that much, that thinks everything helps screw them is good no matter how it affects legal players. So, are u telling me that if it helps that way, it has to remain the same, even of it doesnt have sense and it currently being exploited? Throwing auto ban was just 1 of many ideas that can be developed to stop the exploit so i wont be discussing in detail, bcs this isnt about auto ban. Want another idea? If someone cc from a ch, the message is the followin "No one currently owns this map. Previosly owned by" X" for "X" minutes"and if theres a problem with this, im quite shure, that in a single afternoon u can think in many ideas to, keep giving it the good use(caught hackers) withtouth the exploit(monopolize maps) to mapowning whn cc.

 

When you say "you wont leave ur stand there" the stand in the example is my bishop sitting in the map on the rope while I am afk, so yes you will "leave your stand there."
Your example suggests a person is standing on a sidewalk, having no reason to be there, having reason to return to the spot, and that there are plenty of spots available to stand elsewhere.
There is reason to be there, and like having a lemonade stand set up on that spot while the person is using the bathroom, my bishop is hanging on the rope in the skele map while I am using the bathroom.

 

No, your understanding of the mapowner system is flawed. You think it provides a "reasonable" amount of time to allow for needed afks, but the reason I created this threat, is to explain why a larger amount of time is more reasonable.

Like I said in the original post, the map selling problem will be increased, oversaturated, and bring rise to a solution (rather than allowing it to continue the way it is, which is what you are fighting for).
Think about the map selling problem like the problem most people face with exercising. We all know that we need to exercise to be healthy, yet most of us do not. If you haven't noticed, this quarantine is forcing people to stay at home, which you would expect to cause people to be even less active. However, if you look outside more people are going for walks and getting exercise than ever before (not just because the gyms are closed, I see much more overweight people getting active than I did back at the gym when it was open). So I did explain as clearly as possible how increasing the duration will solve the map selling issue.

Saying things such as: my understanding is flawed, my conclusions are unclear, that I'm being passive-aggressive, only putting a spin on a story to show that a staff member's opinion is in my favor, and that I failed to explain is incorrect to say the least.

You are trying to discredit me to make my points seem invalid, instead of explaining why my points are invalid. (Nice try I guess)
You are the one venting and being passive-aggressive, as you could easily have just voted in the poll and said nothing.

 

I will not dispute the results, I tried my best to make a positive change. If people like having their map taken from them when they are coming back after just barely taking too long, so be it. I will join in the problems that caused my frustration

 

i don't understand why you're literally so mad about this

 

Summon attacks don't contribute to the maintenance of map ownership. You had all the right to hit a mob and take that map for yourself. I guess you were being too nice and didn't wanna do it on their face.

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Overall, there's no such thing as "Map Stealing" here. Royals urges you to educate yourself with server rules, multiple times upon registration and initial login process. If one reads the T&C properly, they would be acquainted with map owner system and never get bullied by offensive intruders. If people randomly come and hit mobs in your channel while you still have the map ownership, you are in a position to record them in case they decide to do it again in a repetitive fashion. It would fall under harassment or objectionable behavior if they continue to attack the mobs without your permission or before checking the ownership, even if it's a single shot before quick cc. Learn the rules and take the rightful advantage that is granted to you as a member of this server. Debating with ethics and manners won't earn much sympathy in a competitive MMORPG.

I don't understand this. How would increasing the mapownership duration lead to people comfortably attacking in an empty map or asking afk (pre) owner for permission? Time is an irrelevant factor here. You just need "polite", "ethical" and "generous" people to achieve what you wrote here, not those who take their rightful, fair advantage of the system.

Are you suggesting that we should worsen the problem (assuming it is a problem) in the hope it'll pressurize a random guy to come up with a brilliant solution he couldn't think of before? Coincidental benefits from bad decisions may seldom occur in reality but advocating a bad idea, with full awareness, for such a result is a horrible gamble. You are jeopardizing every other players' welfare just for an experiment. This is clearly different from throwing a change with visibly good features but ending up with unwanted side effects.

 

The ~mapowner command is really powerful!
It even helps you track down hackers in the map when you cant right click and report them.

Im running out of money to do megas all the times.
So far I have found these guys hacking in one day...
-Bocori
-Ruffies

GM's you might want to look into these guys. Their hacks seem fairly sophisticated.

 

One thing I never liked about MapleStory was how training basically centralized into a couple maps at certain level ranges. Nexon kind of addressed this with mini dungeons allowing players to have their own private instance of a popular map. It helped with KSing, but it didn't address the issue of map centralization. The next alternative is to buff surrounding training areas or maps. (Or nerf the popular maps to bring them in line with surrounding maps, but I don't see that going well.)

Even with the changes Royals made compared to vanilla GMS, most maps are still empty and not worth the time to grind or farm. (Look at Leafre for example. How many maps are there, and how many do you actually train or leech in?) It might not be a bad idea to buff EXP/HP ratio of other monsters, buff drops, or even buff the spawn. There's also the possibility of increasing EXP bonus with more party members so people would be willing to party and share maps rather than hoard a map for themselves. (This could be negated on boss maps if it makes bossing EXP too OP.)

I know the top players will never give up grinding at the optimal maps, but I would like seeing more casual players (or anyone who can't find a good map during peak hours) to be penalized less for training elsewhere.

 

Can you add to poll: Open mini dungeons....

 

I could start a few polls now that I found out they're real easy to make.
I'd be happy to start polls for things like:
1. Should mini dungeons be open?
2. Should map selling be allowed?
3. Should ______ patch be reverted? (I kinda want to make one about potion prices being expensive now, and alchemy being reverted back to the way it was in the original game)