Bro yeah it's expensive late game cuz otherwise the class would remain too op. And it still is. The only difference is low level sins using steelys instead of ilbis right away. It would be deprecated anyways if you ain't washed... Nl on this server is from another world mate, they are fking broken they needed some fix
You can fix the character in a huge number of ways WITHOUT making it harder for new players. As ive said, the shadowshifter nerf and alchemist nerf are good examples of this.
How is it making harder? They just ain't making it easy for you to benefit from an op class. They are balancing the game. Low level sins having to use cheaper stars of course is affects assassins mains, but having high drop rate on mid game stars benefits sins a lot allrdy, so they balance it. It's not making it harder... U just don't wanna use steelys like u were supposed to do in the first place if this wasnt a private server or at least planned perfectly or balanced from the start. But in the bigger picture, it's a good change. Hurts everyone but it's for our own good
Ofc they get mad. I would be sad too. But I would have the good attitude of admiting it's a good change for the server, even if it affects some of us. One thing I can assure you, it doesn't affect new players
No mate, I'm just happy that finally staff did something... Use steelys if you don't have the money, easy as that bro, and you will still have more damage than every other class 100% so don't worry!
Dude, its not that steelies are very cheap you know? Why do I need to think about every star that I throw? A part of the game is to go around and do some quest, now I cant do that anymore because in process I will lose alot of mesos. I prefer to stick to a good place to farm mesos. So yeah, it is affecting new players. And the 30m from nx daily isnt a good argument. ALL PLAYERS gets that 30m daily, but just NL need to use it to pay for their stars.
You say that 'just nls need to use it' but that's the whole point. You really don't understand how nlstory this server as become? What about other jobs? Why are they to weak compared to nls? Use fking tobis and I Guarantee you still do more damage than every other job. U still wanna complain? Let's complain! What about dark knights? How do they feel about hb being worthless since everyone that is supposed to need hp is washed? What about marksman? And why my paladin does less damage than nightlord? Stop being selfish. Nothing more to say
Pedro, your argument is actually insane to me mostly because you say the class is overtuned, I might agree, so you say the best way to balance the class is to make it more expensive to play. But the people who have the money to pay reliably for this are people who dont give a fuck about anything less than 100mil lol. If you only have your 30mil daily coming in you're suckered. How does this balance NLs at all? They are still the top dpsing class, just now people who are unfunded are sitting here with their dicks in their hands.
Basically you're just saying I dont care what sort of change it is, I just hate NLs from the bottom of my heart and any nerf to them gets my dick hard
You might have a good point there, but in my defense I never said this was the best aproach. All I'm saying is unfunded players can use cheaper stars and it doesn't need to be steelys. Can be even cheaper ones. What's the big deal? U still do more damage. Don't like how they look? I'm sorry to tell u but u got nx to hide them I guess.
It just make the differences between Funded NL and a Grinder NL way more biggers. And I dont know how to explain it more than I just did in this thread. People who used Bishop to fund themselvs. will keep farming with the Bishop, will dont care at all about that "little payment" and eventualy, will keep doing big damage (with high hp) While the grinder NL cant do bosses, cant throw good throwing stars, and actually, CANT farm mesos. You want equality between all jobs? then disable the HP Washing option. thats your equality. If you're into socialism, then make it hard to the funded guys, not the poor guys.
I don't know, i thought it was obviuos: 1) If you have to open a character that you DO NOT want to play (ahm bishop) just so you could player a class that you like - it's broken. If I won't spend billions on wash i'll fall behind in bossing. Now I can't afford good stars anyway (got back to subbis), so I'll lack damage too (far bellow the average NL) 2) If HP washing make the game unbalanced, and full of broken mechanis to exploit max hp and damage - Cancel the option to wash. 3) If NLs do much more damage than other classes - nerf their damage \ buff other classes (NL still had advantage with avoidability and movement speed - diffrent playstyle) 4) As pointed above - raising the star price is hurting new players \ players who play for fun and not trying to get the perfect NL. 75 messos per steely is quite a lot. I came to mapleroyals just for casual gaming, and not for selling APR just to be able to do some side quests.
What about when they decide to go past v83 and hb becomes worthless because of cubes on pants? Anyone who likes the class they like can come up with reasons they don’t want to play another class. Personally, the mobility is trash on the other classes and not many of their total skills is as fun to me as sp and ss for nl and boat for sair. Why do I have to play a class that, by its creator’s(Nexon) design, isn’t fun and not getting changed for 20+ patches? MM is literally the same 3rd job skill to 200 which is weak as hell without %stats, same with DK. Pally was considered one of the most useless classes in gms, again without a revamp CO. This game wasn’t designed to be fair or balanced. It’s current state was to keep getting money from gacha and 90 day nx. If you think it’s unfair now, try cubing you’re items or playing db
1) first point on this point is true. U don't need better stars than tobis to do more damage than other jobs. U just wanna play with ilbis right away 2) true. But even gms have washed characters, u rly think they'll remove it? No way! 3) nls are supposed to deal the most damage in the game but if se mules exist and hp wash is a thing (and is just pure trash), they are op since they don't have to pay to have high dmg. 4) it won't hurt new players since new players are suposed to use cheaper and low level stars at the beginning. Do you remember new players using ilbis or even steelys before level 70 when playing, the first character? No. What can you not understand? You benefit to much from low drops allrdy. It's not even still balanced not even close actually and you are complaining. I understand you're pissed but I rather just see every job being played and balanced rather than just nls, I'm sorry I don't agree with u. If you're new use cheaper stars, end of (nl)story. Hopefull
