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  1. yo Kai Sen
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    Selling Dragon Sleeve that better than Perfect Red Craven. Proven (5 LUK = 1 Weapon Att)
    Equivalent to 57 Weapon Att Red Craven
    Offer Here and Will Take as C/O
    No A/W yet, Will decide A/W until i get few C/O to Estimate it.

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    who taught you math ? that's completely messed up.
     
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    59/12dex is clearly better than 56/12luk craven.
    teach us the math if im wrong pls
     
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    To oversimplify, triple throw is entirely luck and Wa reliant only.

    You lose: potentially 12luck, and 10 dex extra due to a higher dex requirement, which might equate to 22 luck in total

    You gain: 3wa, which I believe 3*5 < 22
     
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    so you mean it is same with Perf RC right ?
    and some people with higher dex gear can wear it as well so they can be higher WA (High Dex Gear is easily Achieve)
     
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    If You can gain the extra dex with gear only then 59/12 dex is still a better claw.
    People are willing to pay double for 56/12 craven compared to 56/11, and searching for it like its gold. And all of this for that only 1 extra luck which is nothing.

    So why won't they make some effort in order to be able to use a claw which on 1 hand requires 10 extra dex, but on the other hand can really make a difference with around 1 extra Att compared to 56/12 craven
     
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    Anyway I'm not here to debate whether this is a better claw or not, sure by all means you might be right, I'm just here to explain the basis of kuma's comment.
     
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    from estimate, here is what i think,
    12 dex 59 att dragon sleve,
    it would be 12 dex 7 luk 94 att

    12 dex is about 2 luk so its [(7luk+2) = 0 dex 9 luk 94 att dragon sleve]

    if comparing to red craven, 19 luk 91 att
    (19 luk craven - 9 luk dragon sleve,) = 10 luk
    5luk = 1 attack. therefore missing 2 attack from craven
    add the 2 attack to craven 91+2 = 9/93 craven

    9 luk 94 att dragon sleve is equal to 9 luk 93 red craven

    --> the dragon sleve has 1 attack higher , but requires 10 more dex to wear it <--

    overall i think with all the dex calculated to wear the claw.

    i think the dragon sleve is equivalent to 56.5 red craven but it has some conditions

    1) your sleve is better than craven for late game NL lvl 180+ or (you have enough dex already)
    2) your sleve is worse than craven for NL under 180 because the early levels NL are still struggling to get dex to wear craven

    for me, I am level 200 and have enough dex already, I always prefer green sleve > craven because i get more dmg than craven ,
    purple dragon sleve is too expensive :'(

    I hope my Explanation did not confuse anyone~
     
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    I wasnt talking about actual situation like if NL has 150 or something.
    from what he said, He was thinking 12dex = 12luk because green sleeve has 12 dex so you can wear it with 138 dex. but its not work like that. you need 150 dex from other gears and it will be 150dex + 12 dex =162 dex in your stats.
     
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    You have good creativity and imagination XD

    Here is what i mean, you have to wear dex gear until you get 150 dex to wear it. i did not even count that 12 Dex in this calculation. So yeah, from what you think, you can be the best Artist in the world XD haha
     
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    extra luk is always better because of mw20
     
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    Mw only adds from base. The extra luck doesn't work with mw
     
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