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    Hi everyone, there's obviously a big problem with the whole Zofran issue which I'm starting this thread about now, to try to find a solution to this problem with you.

    First of all, I'm not Zofran. And thats the truth. I only heard about him from Israeli players I met on MapleRoyals, and I saw his forum profile and read some of his posts from about a year ago or so. Thats all. I'm really not him.

    But, the community just refuses to stop. They keep thinking I'm him, when I'm not. They keep saying "hi zofran" or "wb zofran" when I just have no idea what they want from me. Sometimes I start to feel quite frustrated and annoyed from all this.

    So, I have a few ideas I can think of. Please tell me which one you think is better.

    1. I can admit I'm Zofran even if I'm not, and Staff promise not to ban me about it and we can resolve everything through normal discussions and agreements we would make.
    2. I can try to look for Zofran and find out where he is now and if he is playing on a different private server or not, and bring him into here for the purpose of proving I wasnt him all this time. I know a few Israeli players who might know where he is now.
    3. I can stop participating on the forums and quit the forums forever except if I need in game support to participate on the forums for that purpose only. By not participating on the forums I can avoid attracting attention about the whole Zofran issue.

    There are a few other ideas I thought of but not sure if they are worth mentioning now.

    Please let me know what you think, thank you.
     
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    You should make a poll
     
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    The only reason I haven't memed on you is because I don't undoubtedly know that you're Zofran and you might just be a random player with very similar mannerisms. I don't want to bully a new player out of our community, that being said, you are starting to create posts just like Zofran and you seem fixated on the fact that you don't want us to ban you when you have been told multiple times by other staff members that you will not be banned unless we have concrete evidence connecting you two.

    My advice would be to just let people know that you aren't him and stop making threads over everything that happens to you or anything that comes across your mind. Eventually, if you aren't him, people will stop bothering you.

    The coincidences are too great for me to just brush that fact aside though, that's why we haven't agreed that you are not him.
     
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    I already said a million times I'm not him and people continue, so how else would I 'let people know' I am not him? I dont know what behavior he had, but I'm not trying to be like him or participate on the forums like he did. I understand there could be similarities, but these similarities might only be because I'm from the same Israel country he was, that's the only thing that could be causing it I think.

    People refuse to stop, and I cant report players just for calling me "hi zofran" one time, then another one does the same thing, and another one, and another... and it doesnt stop. Its annoying and I cant focus on playing the game like that. Also it happens a lot more on the forums than in game, thats why I thought maybe I need to just quit the forums permanently.

    I insist that the similarities that you mention between me and the way Zofran posted posts and threads, are a coincidence and honestly arent even really "similarities" at all, just maybe some things which appear a little similar but nothing more. I also have read on forums of a different private server that he had returned to play on other private server, which I wont mention the name(since its probably not allowed to do so).

    And also, I would honestly say, if I was Zofran I wouldnt come back to a server I was banned on. I'd try to make ban appeal, if its denied I wouldnt come back.

    And if I WOULD decide to come back if I was banned, I know very well how to ban evade without being caught. Just use a new computer, new internet connection, new name and account and email address and keep a "low profile", not talk much or make much friends to avoid suspicion. Its easy to ban evade if you know how to do it properly, so if I was him I would know very well how to do it.
     
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    Bro how bout u just stop bringing it up n letting more ppl in on the meme? Feel like u constantly talking abt it wld convince more ppl to meme on it even more
     
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    I must say this is absolutely ingenious, it just blew my mind how ingenious this thread is.

    Thank you, Totally-Not-Zofran :D

    Edit: Oh and by the way, Welcome back :)
     
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    You're wrong. I'll tell you why a thread like this is needed.

    Here's how things have been for me in the last 2 weeks or so. I open my Chrome browser and check out a few sites. After that, I go to the MapleRoyals Forums. In the Shoutbox I almost always see atleast one "zofran is back" or "hi zofran" or a "wb zofran", which already caused me to be frustrated. Why? Because that player caused so much problems and trouble that if some players think I'm him, I'm in trouble myself. After that, I see on the forums a few hints that imply people say I'm him, and I just say to myself "I hope this is gonna stop soon". Its obviously not a pleasant situation to be in. Usually when I see that I try to ignore it so it'd stop or happen less frequently, but no, it continues.

    When we go in game, the party starts. Random whispers from random people of "hi zofran" or "wb zofran", random buddy requests from players I dont know, Being defamed and called "wtf zofran" or "Get lost zofran" or something like that by the defamer. Even one time, I was standing in the PQ zone and tried to find a party and someone was like "he's zofran dont add him to party".

    Add all that and more(a lot more, I just dont have time to mention everything), and add the fact I have to play in fear every single day because I dont know when someone from Staff would lose their patience or understanding and decide to ban despite the fact I tried to prove in all ways I can that I'm not him. Just that fact of having to play in fear every single day, is already a big problem to deal with honestly.
     
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    The community is meme-ing hard on this cause he kept coming back though
     
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    I dont know what exactly happend, but to me it sounds like you should have just unbanned him if what he did that made him be banned wasnt too serious. Especially if he came back more than 1 time and asked to be unbanned nicely.
    And until now I still dont even know, what he was banned for?
     
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    You may wish to review the rules again if you feel the account sharing isn't serious
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/quitting-giving-away-my-game-account-to-don-the-biggest-fan.131675/
     
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    I didnt know he shared his account. Actually, all this time I thought he was banned for forum spamming / forum drama and trouble. I'm kinda surprised it was account sharing.

    edit - i just read the rules on account sharing, it says on there on first offence of this is a 30 day ban, not permanent ban. shouldnt you have unbanned him 30 days later?
     
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    Please do refer to the Major Infraction regarding Account Sharing

    10. Account Sharing - This rule was altered in October of 2014 to respond to the growing number of people abusing the ability to share accounts for a variety of purposes that we deemed unacceptable. Eight scenarios for which account sharing will be considered an immediate permanent ban are the following:
    1. Using power-levelling services;
    2. Two or more people taking turns in levelling up a character (ie: training);
    3. Logging onto someone else's character in order to leech your own;
    4. Removing items from or deleting someone else's character;
    5. Giving an account with a high-levelled character on it to someone else;
    6. Committing a bannable offence (other than just account sharing) on someone else's account;
    7. Wasting staff time by lying about the account sharing;
    8. Sharing your account details with multiple people.
    What Zofran did was an instant permanent ban - not related to his memes at all
    He did not read the rules and had to face the consequences
     
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    Oh okay, I see. So he was about level 4o or 50 which is considered high enough to deserve a permanent ban when he shared his account. I thought high level is considered 120+ but maybe, I was wrong about that.

    By the way I just looked at the date of that thread, Nov 24 2018. Would you honestly say he still deserves to be banned even over a year and a half later?
     
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    Definition of high level are based on what the Staff decides
    For me personally, 50 = high enough cause able to access Gachapon, Megaphone or APR

    For the ban duration, I believe he deserves the permanent ban cause he may have gotten Don's account banned as well (for account sharing)
    I consider that as a malicious intent to get others banned and I do not welcome such a player back to Royals - he may harm others again

    I have nothing against his memes or jokes, but what he did was highly irresponsible and extremely harmful to other players
     
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    To be honest I dont care if he is allowed to be unbanned or not much, but I think a year and a half is very long time to be banned for someone without being unbanned still. If it has been 2 months I would understand, but 1 year and a half is extremely long time if you ask me.

    Combine that with the fact we're during a very difficult time with Coronavirus, he should've been unbanned long time ago the way I see things here. But I dont really care much, again. What I care about is that other players on this server understand that they're not going to stop me from playing on here, just because they think I'm him and they keep using words like "hi zofran" and "wb zofran". I admit it can be annoying but not something I'd quit this server because of it.
     
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    General rule is if they do anything other than log in and log off it's perm.

    also, fwiw, just saying "I'm not him" is not a great defense, as if you are Zofran, that's exactly what you'd say. In fact, he does that each time till he miraculously announces it was all a scam and that he was just messing with people. We don't live in a world where people who break rules freely admit it.
     
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    Wow zofran asking for unban on his main~imboss~f18
     
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    This is so great. :D

    Maybe we should say "Hi Narfoz" than to make it simplified and clear that you are not him?

    Also let me tell you a story:

    When I was 7 years old or so - I was testing my boundaries and did a lot of things I knew I will be punished for by my parents. however I still wanted to do certain things over and over again and tried to outsmart my parents. One day something went wrong I crashed an expensive window. After that I instantly proceeded to clean my room, do my homework, paint some nice drawings for my mum and even try to take out the trash which failed es well. My plan was to be the nicest guy on earth - cause my mum will certainly say "hey this boy is so nice today, he cannot have smashed the window. Usually it would totally fit his behaviour but after all he was so nice today that I cannot suspect him."

    So, just to keep it simple, I wanna tell you, Narfoz, that all of your comments are just on this lvl if you ask me. But still thank you for all the extremely intersting ways my brain feels now. It is so rare to have such a pleasent stimulation :D
     
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    Look, I agree that just saying I'm not him isn't enough sometimes. But what else can I say? If there was a way I can prove I'm not him I would do so. I ask that you please advise me on how I can possibly prove to all Staff members that I'm not Zofran. IF you can give me even just 1 way to prove that, this entire problem would be resolved. But, I must say I dont just say "I'm not him" because thats what he would say. I say that because its the most simple way to react to the false accusations.

    But if you can think of a way I can prove I'm not Zofran, please tell me how. And if there is a way, I ask that you share the proof I'm not Zofran with all Staff members so, that way I would be 100% sure everyone in the Staff knows and would not feel suspicious anymore.

    I understand you have a right to ban a player if he is volating rules, but just like someone else from Staff stated before about this issue - if you have no 100% proof I'm him, you cant ban me. By "cant" I mean you cant ban me for violating rules. But, technically, you can ban a player even if you just dontt "like" him. I have a feeling you've done that in the past to other players - you banned players not because they deserved it or violated any rules, but because you just didnt like them personally. I heard that happens sometimes, and I heard stories. So i'm even more worried because of that, not because of you possibly concluding I'm Zofran. You could conclude I'm not him, but ban me just because you thought I'm annoying player or I'm not "nice" enough. I hate how some Staff members ban players based on their mood. A bad mood isnt a valid reason to ban a player.
    I dont care if he is unbanned or not, I mean to say based on what I've seen and heard, that he might have deserved to be unbanned at some point, but that didnt happen. Eventually what I think doesnt have any impact on staff"s decisions.
    Dont call me Narfoz too, its also annoying. I have a name, its Simplified. So call me Simplified. I dont give my real name to anyone. And I am not Zofran or "narfoz" so dont use names that have nothing to do with me. You can "think" I'm Zofran but nothing more than thoughts. I said I'm not him, and to most players that should be enough. If you need proof, give me a way to prove I'm not him and I'll try.
     
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    i'm just saying i've never seen you and zofran in the same room at the same time so there is only one logical conclusion
     
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