New world? Wipe? What?

I like the idea of wz editing because during 2009 I played prozstyleMS. Prozstyle was a low rate server v62 server but what was different was we had all the NX /Chairs/Maps/Weapons from JMS KMS CMS HKMS Maplesea. Before the server shut down we had KoC almost working on v62. IMO add new items maps and bosses(ToT). We can still keep the nostalgia of v62 just with some additions to make the game more long lasting.

 

No, I'm not kidding, try to get your facts straight when you make snarky comments. "p.s, theres 4 on the first page. seriously, did you even look?"

We are not talking about v62 servers, we are talking about v83 servers remember? "if we wanted to play a low-rate v83 server we would go play one." So I'm not sure where you were going on that tangent, but cool story.

The closest 12x v83 server is 24 while we're 8 lmfao, and its almost 100% custom content, so obviously the quality isn't nearly as good, good try though, especially when we're pushing for LOWER rates. Cba arguing with someone with 0 reading comprehension skills and derailing the actual point of the thread so this conversation is over.

 

i'm not going to argue with you.

clearly, we are both very strongly opinionated people and neiter one of us is about to give in to the other, we could go on for days.

I'll just leave it at this and i respect your opinions.


good day to you sir.

 

Okay so before I start, I apologize is if this isn't coherent, I'm almost ready to pass out.

Okay so reading what people have said, and I've read almost every post, this is what I've come to:

To those saying wipe and upgrade to v83: In my opinion, that's when maple started becoming less enjoyable to me. Don't forget that v83 has the exp curve, so to everyone saying how easy it is to level now, think how much easier it'll be to level then. While all the added content in v83 is nice, that's not the reason why I joined this server. If I wanted to play v83, I'd be playing a v83 server. I joined for the "nostalgia". So to those of you who said the reason you joined was because it was v62, I agree with you.

For those who say lower the exp rates: That would be unfair to any new player(s), since technically we got to play with an exp boost (which gave us an advantage), and they didn't. It's not fair to someone who has to now play 4x when we got to play with 10x (erm not sure if that makes sense, so tired T.T, hopefully you get the gist).

For those who say wipe and lower exp rates: I've seen wipes do two things to servers: They either save the server or they completely ruin it and it ends up shutting down in the end. More often than not, the latter tends to happen. Honestly, I'd quit if we wiped, even though technically I've been really inactive anyway due to my depression in real life, but moving on... If you decide to do this, you might risk losing a huge portion of your player base (or maybe not idk), but just be cautious with this.

As for the two worlds thing: If you can do this great, even though this could end up splitting the player base. That might be bad in a sense that although we have a somewhat decent size community, it's not that big yet, so splitting it up now might not be the best case. Wait till we get more people, so that both worlds have a nice enough size of a community to function, otherwise one world might die and then there goes the point of all of this.

So in the end, the decision is entirely up to you Matt. Realize that what you do, someone is going to be upset, but that's typical. Go with the option that you think will piss off the least amount of people. I feel like I have more to say, but I'm ready to keel over, so I'ma go to bed.

 

I'm not sure about most maple royalers but I came here because I remember playing V 0.34 and I stopped because I was physically and mentally burned out trying to grind all day. I remember being frustrated and did not have the money to buy NX. Honestly, playing this for the first time in 6 years (especially on a mac) was like hitting the jackpot to me. I cannot thank the staff enough for managing and recreating such a memorable experience and to all the players who have helped me out nicely since I started. It would be nice to keep V 0.62 a while longer giving people like me a chance to have fun for a few hours a day/week. But don't get me wrong, I completely respect people who have high level accounts and its important to keep things fresh from time to time. This is going to be a tough one to compromise. :/

 

We're pushing for lower rate btw, so no, it wouldn't be faster even with the exp curve change since our rates would drop here.

Also, I'm still confused about what in v83 ruins the nostalgia? Anything pre-potential is pretty nostalgic.

 

I'm with Ty on this- I'll like a lower server rate two worlds thing

But IMO (which I'm sure the GMs are working their asses off so hard so I'm just saying it because I am) let all the bugs be fixed first D

Cos I'm sure once horntail is fixed the pros are going to have their hands full.

 

To be honest, I'm just not sure. I'm honestly confusing myself, I just remember in v83 when the community started changing and it just wasn't as fun to me (I know this is a completely different scenario since this is a entirely different community and is nowhere near the same as the original maple community). v83 does have a ton of stuff, but that's when it got to be too much to me. Leveling started getting easier then. You can lower the exp rate sure, but it won't be all that much different than it is now with the current rates and everything because there's so much in v83. Plus if we move to v83 it's going to take a while to get everything at least partially working, it'd take a lot of hard work no? Well anyways, do what you guys want.

 

this. horntail should be the priority, i am telling you guys all this server needs is a SUPER hard boss that ll take like 50 people to kill.

also, games don't last forever, you;ll eventually get bored and quit no matter how much content we have.

i personally think this is the best server out there, but if they change it at all, other than fixing bugs, that it'll be much less fun. grinding is boring enough as it is, i don't want to grind EVEN MORE. please leave the rates alone. there are other servers for the players dissatisfied with the current rates.

 

I hate the thought of a wipe and changing versions, why not just bring back the old gacha and lower the chances of ws/chaos so people don't feel like they got cheated out of what other players had. New content would be awesome, (lvl120+ custom pqs,custom maps/quests)
And I personally think the people who want a wipe needs to enjoy the game and not play to be the best but play for fun. royals has a good thing going, please don't ruin it.

 

why change something that works, right? this game drew in a lot of people for being the way it is, please dont start pushing them away. we love how it is. the people who want change are the ones who simply played out of moderation for hours on end. again, games will not last forever, everybody knows this. it's what you make of it. even if you change the rates and add more content, 3 more months from now, you'll have a buncha people complaining that it is lacking in content and that you should change the server again. please let those who DO play in moderation to enjoy the server as i think i speak for about 90% of the players when i say :

WE LOVE MAPLEROYALS! MAPLEROYALS IS A V62 MAPLESTORY PRiVATE SERVER WITH PERFECT RATES. not too low, not too high. simply perfect. a few months to reach level 200 is extremely reasonable. and i love the fact that it's 10x exp because that means i'm still able to have a social life while making progress in the game. unlike if you lower the rates, ill only be able to level like 1 time per week and will never get to experience the end game content, which basically gives me no reason to bother playing. i am honestly begging you to leave the server how it is. it is one of my favourite things to do after working a 16 hour day in a couple of full - time minimum wage, dead-end jobs. I'm not saying this for pity or guilt-prevoking reasons, i simply wanted to express how much the server in it's current state, helps me keep a level head and not fold under the stress and pressures of the real world.

 

Seriously though, I really hope the server doesn't get ruined because the people who simply ruined the server for them selfs just because their bored because they play the game too much. New content would be really nice, but if it means we would have to change versions and wipe. That sucks. How long will it be until all the "pros" get bored of all the new content? And almost half the players quit due to wipe, and then that's when our awesome server goes downhill and is gone and forgotten. And man I have forgotten many servers.
This server should just be perfecting what it has not changing it completely.

 

right. and no wipe means the rates should not change. because then those who are already like lvl 150+ basically get a HUGE advantage over any newcomers.

no sense in making things completely unfair.

this server is perfect minus a few bugs and glitches here and there.

i just hope the admins realize this and stop letting the "pros" persuade them into the thinking that there is something wrong with their server, and that it is in need of change (again, minus a few bugs)

 

OK. What Kris and Classified seems to want is a 'play max 4 hours a day' added to Royals, considering all they seem to be doing is going on and on and on and on and on about how other people play more than they do and that's why they're bored. Stop assuming you know everything about everyone else - and more importantly, stop speaking for them.

Personally, I'm bored because of the lack of high level content (ToT, PB, etc) IN ADDITION TO the lack of content that consumes time but is rewarding (Nett's Pyramid PQ, Mu Lung Dojo, etc).

Even though I've worked quite hard (not compared to others, though) for my equips I find myself less and less against a possible wipe. Although, a wipe for the sake of a wipe isn't something that I'd want.

Myself, I really prefer v83 to v62. While I can understand that people may not want v83, their arguments have so far failed to convince me as to why v83 is such a non-nostalgic version compared to v62. (There's no potential, there's no Big Bang, etc... so why it is so non-nostalgic? KoC can be ignored, it gives you 12 more attack but that's about it, and Aran - sure - but that's ONE thing and I'd still like to think of Aran as an old class. It's all downhill from Evan and onwards, though.)

KoC? They're level 120 anyway, and no one's threatening you with a gun to play them anyway (to paraphrase someone...)

PB? Yay, more end-game high level content that will definitely take ages to reach - if rates are lowered (despite the reduced exp curve existing in v83) then this would take a looooot of time to reach, which would be really challenging, and fun.

ToT? Stops Skele-dependance, which already is killed by v83 anyway because party exp ratio is changed and bishops are nerfed (ele wand). So, now all you people whining about how unfair it is for non-bishops vs bishops can rejoice together should this come true.

Despite the fact that I'm writing this, I'm not entirely sure what I want for Royals. Ideally, I'd want a wipe + v83, but as far as I know that suggestion isn't very popular so it will most likely not happen.

A wipe because of lowering rates while doing nothing else to the server would just infuriate a lot of people and the community would probably be hit hard by this.

A new server with lower rates would (obviously) split the community and therefore isn't feasible - yet. Maybe, maybe, when the server's popularity and activity has increased even more. But definitely not yet.

Apologies for my incoherent ramble that most likely omitted a lot of things as well as reiterated a lot of things already mentioned, but oh well.

 

I don't know if it still matters but I already stopped playing due to the challenge being taken away since I can pretty much buy 5 white scrolls a day with what I make. If we ever have another server that's actually a lot harder, I do come back.

 

Okay, well you can stick to your own argument, you obvious don't understand how much better v.62 is, and your a major hypocrite you obviously don't know me either . I understand your point, but excuse my french but people like you are fucking my game up may aswell call this server something else cause it won't be mapleroyals anymore. And I don't play everyday cause I have a life, but I'm still active, who are you to say how much anyone should play. And I'll make this clear so I don't have to keep arguing, all I said was people play the game too much and get way too blown out on the same thing. Which is going to happen.
That shouldn't mean wipe the server and pretty much rebuild the whole server thats all I'm trying to say.

 

okay let me get this straight. you want stuff like ToT and pink bean and such, yet you joined a server running of a version of maple that doesn't have it. please explain the logic in that. and we're not "going on and on" about how others play more than us. and why would you even be playing more than 4 hours a day? that's actually a lot of play time bro, now i dont wanna sound cliche, but cmon dude if you're playing more than 4 hours a day....

besides, i don't care if you play more than that, but if you are going to play that much, you will get bored much quicker.

look at it this way, if you were playing a campaign on a video game, you could either play like a bit of the campaign each day and it could last you a while or you can play through it in a day or two and never touch it again.

tv series are the same. think a tv series that you love, and how each week you're excited for the next episode to come out. this makes the entertainment of that tv series last a lot longer than if you were to find another one that had all the episodes already on netflix or something and you just watched all the episodes in like a week and then when there were no episodes left you found yourself with nothing to watch or entertain yourself with. these may not be the best analogies but it definitely gets the point im trying to make out there.

you can argue with what were saying as much as you like, but it's our opinion, and like every other person on this planet, we are entitled to have one.
your life would be a lot simpler if you would just accept that others have a different opinion than you and learn to respect others opinions as well as your own.

in short, if you're looking for content that is in versions of maplestory higher than this one, what are you even doing here in the first place? that makes absolutely no sense at all.

take care.

 

also, v83 is less nostalgic for a few reasons:

-cygnus knights

-aran

-pink bean

-hammer slots on equipment

-mu lung (i think)

-empress blessing skill

-exp curve

-medals


and a few more, but im not actually going to sit here and write down every single one, just thought i would lay down a few examples.

 

If it aint broke, dont fix it!

No need to change anything...

I personally wouldn't go for a new xp rate world or a wipe

Also to add to the whole v83 thing... if people want v83 that much they should've joined a v83 server in the first place!

 

First of all id say you should upgrade the server to v88 because its not the big bang yet
and it can be really fun, I remember moongra ms the greatest server with the most community in that time it had many systems like maple world race- a system that works like an automatic event every 2 hours and tells you where in the world the race will begin and you get points that you can exchange, and it had a jq system which you go to a jq and you need pass the jq and to get a prize at the end of it you need to pay 20 mil.
What im saying here is that you dont have to have a upgrade or whatever, just add some more systems in because the server is very good but with some extra systems which brings a lot of new content it can be very great.