Hero vs DrK?

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    I want to do end-game content such as Zakum and Horntail but on the fence between the two classes. What i'm wondering about the most is having Hyper Body to get into runs easier worth having to micromanage berserk? I've never played Dark Knight before and I have no idea how difficult it is to berserk properly because it is a very important thing to be sure about since if you die as HB mule the run is most likely over if your squad is not heavily washed. Hero on the other hand from what i've heard is braindead to play like Night Lords but don't have as much damage so how often will they be accepted into runs if theres a good Dark Knight to HB/Cleave already?
     
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    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hero-vs-drk.93473/#post-541692
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hero-vs-dark-knight.124080/#post-706796

    go thru the 2 links, u will have a better idea.
    Serk is fun, it keeps you awake. At 50% hp (15k), it is not hard to keep it within 14k range.

    Do not worry about the squad, hp wash is too common these days. Even for HT, HB is crucial for unwashed attackers only at the start.
    Gear wise, high stats end game sword is more common than ski. that could an limitation i foresee.
     
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    so from what i've read from those posts:

    Hero:
    Easier to play so more consistent damage
    Barely needs to wash if at all if there's HB
    Easier to fund (from what you said)

    Dark Knight:
    Needs 100% focus to do ~5% more damage or same damage (only if there SI present) which i don't think there will ever be because buccs aren't wanted in boss runs (from what i've seen on forum)
    Washing is required to berserk (quite a good amount of washing actually)
    Hard to fund because of low supply of endgame weapon
    HB not being as valuable because of HP Washing which will only get worse with time

    I was hoping to be a dark knight but it is indeed looking quite dark for them..
     
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    Drk buff soonTM -.-'
     
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    I have a hero and can say that hero is not a fun class to play at all. It's really braindead compared to drk and if I had the option to go back and re-do my character, I'd 10000% go for drk, despite the rarity of perf/good skis.

    I reckon it would be a lot more fun to play drk since it actually requires the player to pay attention and be present in the game, although the grass always looks greener on the other side ^_^' I could be biased against heroes since I'm bored out of my mind when it comes to playing my hero.
     
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    aren't Night Lords and Bowmasters a hold 1 button down class too beside having to SE once in a while i just don't see a reason to play dark knight besides liking the mechanic of berserk.
     
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    I personally think that drk is more fun to play than hero but that's just my opinion as I only have a hero. I have however played drk in MapleSEA so I highly doubt that the mechanics are any different, hence the bias towards drk as I think it's a whole lot more fun than hero.

    That's why I'm saying that if you don't want to play a braindead class where you just hold 1 button down and slowly rot inside, drk would be a better option for you.
     
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    Pally is the best, since both zak and HT got weapon cancel and pally is very welcome to these boss fights cuz it has the unique skill: Total Crash to nullify the weapon cancel to save the time (also can be a sed in HT lel). If talking about single target bosses, pally outplayed the other two warriors since nearly all bosses in Royals got elemental weakness. Thus, pally got more attack skills at 4th job unlike Hero only got 1 and DK got none, which is more fun to play. The only disadvantage of pally is CWKPQ, it cannot deal efficient multi-target damage to 3 bosses at the same time. BTW, the dps ranking of pally is at 4th place of all jobs with full buffs (Sair > NL > Bucc > Pally).
     
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    I was also gonna suggest Pally because it seems really fun but OP was asking about drk vs hero :xD:
     
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    I'm pretty sure shadower would beat pally. Shadower who participated in the Krex DPS rank didn't have the best gear compared to other class' participants.
     
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    I just want to add a point here...despite the fact theres a big amount of ppl who dislike the "braindead" gameplay,wich, could** turn the balance in favor of drks
    But then appears one aspect of the game called "multiclient" wich makes zerk fun into stressfull(i call it challenging to fool myself) and hero boring into fun.....

    **and i say could,. Bcs zerk being fun is subjective, ive known a lot of ppl who find it just annoying bcs theres no real reward from it other than "match up" with others dmg.
     
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    I think with so many crash mules but even without those shadowers are better than pallys

    hero is better, simply because everyone is washed and because you can't enjoy Neo Tokyo properly as a DrK.
    It's sad.
    the mule and hp wash system completely unbalances the game
     
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    Potentially stronger*.
    If someone says that a pally deals more dmg than a shad(probably based on that krex dps video) on high fundings, is wrong. But that doesnt make shadowers strictly better than pallys.
     
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    Pallys perform much better than heroes in Neo bosses, though? Since all bosses are single target and pally atk skill "Blast" has larger hit box / higher dmg than Brandish.
    Heroes are quite useless in Auf not gonna lie, since it needs 75k dmg to KB Auf and pallys can easily do that with every single hit while heroes can't. I got a hero as well so I could tell.
     
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    Batman is better than any other hero.
     
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    Paaaaaaaladddinnnnn

    EDIT: On a more serious note, if you do not care about zerking and want more engaging gameplay then hero, paladin is perfect for you. Many aspects of the gameplay are interactive and your pseudorole as a supporter keeps things interesting. I won't go in too much detail as I have a full guide dedicated to paladin but I do believe if you mostly care about bossing, paladin is the class for you especially with the new addition of neo tokyo.
     
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    I have a hero, but I believe that playing a dark knight would make for a more engaging experience.
     
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    who says buccs aren't wanted on boss runs...?
     
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    Hmm i played hero n drk to 200, pally at 190 now.
    Drk was most stressful, even dying in boss at 199 is possible. But its quite fun. U still can go brain dead attack if ur auto pot doesnt mess up tho for some bosses. U can die at any moment if u happen to zone out get unlucky.

    Pally u nid to rmb all the elements or always have a guide up for the elementz

    Hero is just reposition tbh. I used to close my eyes a bit n hit toad on it. Overall, its quite decent but a bit no rly any defining features i guess? Aside from the cool red orbs floating ard u covering ur body n make u wonder why u spent so much nx n rp to look at 5 red orbs spinning ard

    In terms of washing, drk is cheapest since u dont nid int gear n low base int. Othet 2 just depends on ur goal but i've always gone 20k cos im poor :)
     
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    I made a drk first, gave up at Lv164.

    Now I main a Hero, currently Lv176 and not going back to Drk.
     

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