Hello . guys. i am a poor and lonely sair. maybe mostly sair lonely too... Yes,our damage not bad when compare to others. But why we cannot be buff more a bit..To be honest..mostly ppl donot like to play a sair or invite a sair into pro pt. As my playing experience...i think maybe give sair a teammate buff better???? such as..let our bullseyes(egg) work for teammates too?even for teammate dmg only 5%？ 2nd.....can we have a 30-40% stance while on ship？？？？Guys...we Are on a machine....why we must be slower and low avoid？？？Machine shoud make ppl stronger...That is science.. Ok..please donot scold me I just like sair....if i am wrong...sorry everyone.. But cosair #1！
You have mw20. Adding a party buff to a really dynamic and attention demanding key set of about 15 skills is just more anxiety. If anything an anchor skill that you have to toggle on off to dismount in ship only that acts as like a 25% stance would be cool and the extra attention makes it fair And maybe buff def and m.def in ship Otherwise you're talking about the top dps class here
I steam like a fucking rice cooker at this dumb ass merry-go-round of "buff this buff that nerf this nerf that make x easier y is too hard".
Ill start saying that i do not own a sair yet in royals, and the one i had in gms wasnt that pro, and i didnt put that atention into it. Despite that ive really interested in sairs gameplay lately, and ive found its a really interesting class!...it also proves a lot of things here. Sairs are exactly what everyone ask for, but no one actually wants. A "not braindead class" u have to pay atention, and u get not "a nice dmg" or a "not bad one" as reward, ure getting the highest dmg dealer in game by a decent amount. A not only that, its waaaaay less dependant on buffs that the 2nd higher damage dealer(Nl)that is a HUGE pro .(This means that even withouth Se and SI...u will still do a decent amount of dmg, and nl withouth SE is barely decent) They also have some utility skills...but just with the 1st point added its enough. Why is sair not popular?..Bcs is not easy to play. Everyone says that they dont like braindead gameplay...but braindead is meta.here and most games i know(yes dark magician deck....im looking at u) Thats bcs some ppl are lazy, but more important for muling. The most confortable the gameplay, the most mules u can use in party raids....thats why so little ppl make sairs. The thing u said about sairs being unwanted is directly a lie. And if someone rejects a sair, good for u, ure avoiding a moron.Sairs even if theyre not that well equiped, or high lvl, can deal a quite good amount of dmg. About ship it has the speed reduced bcs, idk if u knew but, the higher speed/jump u have, makrs longer the distance ure going to be knockbacked when a mob/boss hits, with that low speed it takes more hits to make u fell from platforms..making u easier to reposicionate. Make sairs more confortable to play would be make them straight up broken if u ask me, but i would wait the voice from a pro sair here to know if they consider that 20-30% stance on ship would be OP or not.
Then do the ice bucket challenge bud. U can be not on board with changes,and u could be right, but u could give ur arguments on why u wont agree...here for example, i dont think sairs need a buff and i have detailed the reasons why, help a new player. You have 2 viable options 1.- explain ur reasons why u think these changes are unnecesary and help a newcomer to change his mindset. 2.Think that it "wont worth the effort" and just ignore it.
Im sorry...maybe i overheated too.. didnt wabt to start an argue or fight, is just....this guy recently joined the forums ,im shure that he ddint look into feedback thread and said: "hey theres a ton of buff "x" job threads..i will make another just to screw up nostalgs"... if a group of players is is tired of job changes request, its only normal, but flame a newbie, or even just coment it on probably their 1st theead..doesnt seem fair to me Edited withouth ofenses:3
All good! I think you're misunderstanding brother. I didn't call the OP dumb and I wasn't flaming him. I was flaming the concept of class changes/balancing as a whole-I said that the concept is dumb, not the person saying it. There was nothing personal about my comment.
Ok, i understand...i would still say that maybe this isnt the place to point that,bcs hes just doing that. The concept itself can be dumb or not..i think i would be a quite interesting debate,since i believe the oposite, despite i came for notalgia too, i think things cant just remain static ,otherwise they get absolutely outdated,but again i think this would be an interrsting debate to do in another thread
I would think that the nerf to NL's would make Corsair's more enticing, but it's most likely as Relmy said and that people do not value dexterous execution as much as they protest.
I have a 16x sair and I'm down for interesting changes but it honestly wouldn't be fair if it was a straight buff because I completely and utterly disagree with the opinion that corsair is weak. A low budget Sair is stronger than a low budget NL because you're not expected to wash as much, your bullets are dirt cheap and you don't need Triple Throw 30. A funded Sair is still often stronger than a funded NL as well in many cases. Check the Krex eye test for example, https://royals.ms/forum/threads/pirate-king-krexels-2nd-eye-dps-tests-bucc-and-sair.145069/. Sairs are #1 and its not even close. Sair are definitely worse in HT but have higher DPS in pretty much every other major boss including Auf Haven. It is my personal belief that Corsair is one of the most underrated classes in the game, if not THE most underrated. I've been thinking about writing a Sair guide and the fact that a thread like this even exists makes me think I really need to get on that.
Im a long term sair player (Wolftail lv200) and I felt like needing to respond to some of the points here. I do not think sair needs to be changed in any way as the problem of there being only few sair players comes from the high mainteinance playstyle of the class. If you're playing sair in HT body, you cannot mule and expect to do any damage, sair is simply not a mule -friendly class (and there is nothing wrong with that). The game should allow a variety of playstyles, not just the afk 1 button NL -way. It feels very rewarding to get valued for your micro by outdamaging every low effort NL out there. As for the anchor, I do not think this is necessary in any way. There already is a system for fighting knockback as a corsair even if it's not outlined in the guides as it came into play only after the Neo Tokyo patch (to address Auf movement). You are now able to shoot your cannons in the air, meaning you can do small hops forward and firing in the air, meaning you've high mobility while maintaining dps. You can also do this trick backwards. Albeit difficult to master, it's exactly the sort of gameplay sair should encourage. (I've also been thinking about writing a sair guide as the current one is lacking imo)
