HP washing a new Bowman

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    Hey there!

    It's my first time HP washing a character, I've read some guides about HP washing, but it feels like rocketscience to me :s

    I'm writing this thread cause I'm making a BM main and I want to HP wash it, I'd like to get about 13k HP by lv 135~140 and I'm wondering how much Base int i should put into it, I got my bowman to 25 dex and I've put all the AP into Int so far, it's still low leveled but I have no idea how much AP i should put into INT and no idea at about what level I should start MP washing to get enough int.

    Would really appreciate the help <3
     
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    I will start off by giving you general info about HP Washing a BM.
    Upon using AP Reset to take 1 point out of MP you will lose 12 MP & Adding 1 point into HP (whether it's from leveling or using AP Reset would be the same result for a BM) you would gain +16~20 HP.

    At around lvl 135-140 your BM will have around 5k HP (Saying this based on what i'm seeing on a lvl 132 BM mule that i used to farm stoppers with).
    That means u will need to gain around 8k HP from washing to get to your 13k HP goal.

    On average you will get 18 HP per 1 ap reset - so that means you will need around 445 Washes to do so (8000 / 18 = 444.4).
    445 Washes will cost you 5,340 MP that you need to gain until your goal lvl 135-140.

    For every 10 TOTAL INT upon leveling up - you will gain 1 additional MP in addition to the minimum MP gained.
    (In a situation where let's say you have 254 TOTAL INT - you will gain an addition of 25 MP with the minimum MP gained upon leveling up, notice i didnt say leveling MP, thats different)

    MP Washing - After using fresh AP into MP ,for every 10 BASE INT (without the bonus of INT from equips/MW) you will gain 1 additional MP in addition to the minimum MP gained.
    (Let's say the same stats , but you have 170 BASE INT + 84 INT from equips/MW buff, you will only gain 17 additional MP with the minimum MP gained upon using 1 AP into MP)

    Using that information you need to plan ahead and achieve extra 5340 MP by your goal level (for you 135-140) to later on turn them into HP with your AP Resets.

    Let's say you put all your AP into INT from lvl 10 until lvl 30 and adding some decent INT equips that provide 50 INT - putting you on 150 TOTAL INT. (100 INT from 20 lvls + 50 INT from equips)
    100 levels of 150 TOTAL INT will provide you 15 additional MP per level = 1500 additional MP , which is not enough. (You need 5340)

    I'm pretty sure you will need to use MP Washing for your goal, and so you need to find the "sweet spot" of amount of BASE INT you are willing to add.
    Let's say you decide to go for 200 base INT + 50 int of equips (just numbers out of my head, u might get more from equips or less) - resulting in 250 TOTAL INT. (Will probably get it by lvl 50, and mind you, you still get additional MP until lvl 50)
    50 to lvl 140 = 90 levels.
    90 levels of 250 TOTAL INT gonna provide 2250 additional MP (90*25), plus the MP from lvl 10 to 50 which will grow each lvl, around 500-600 MP i think (not sure, didnt calculate each lvl, its just to give an idea).
    Resulting in 2750 additional MP (around 2600 MP short from your goal).

    Now how do you fill in those 2600 MP? You use your decent amount of BASE INT (which is 200 = 20 additional MP gain per 1 use of AP onto MP stat).
    2600 / 20 = 130 MP washes. (26 levels of saving your 5 AP from each level-up to put into MP stat)

    All of that example (You should plan it for yourself, i don't know the most optimal base INT for your goal, this is mostly to make you understand), will cost:
    130 MP Washes (to return the points you put into MP to your main stat)
    200 INT to reset the BASE INT later to main stat
    445 Washes to convert your additional MP you built into HP.
    = 775 AP resets = 10.85b on 14m ea.

    Again, i'm not stating this the most optimal way to achieve 13k HP by level 140, this is just to help you understand the HP washing process for your future BM.
    Play with the numbers, give it some time, and ask questions if you need more clarification.

    I hope i was helpful and didn't confuse you even more, and if anybody sees a mistake in my advice or in my calculation, feel free to step in to correct me and help.
     
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    Thank you so much for you help!

    Correct me if I'm right, my plan for this BM would be to get to 200 base int, and then MP wash 130 times or the equivilent to 26 levels?

    and by MP washing what I do is to put 1 ap into mp, then using apr to take that ap away from the mp stat giving me extra mp and then using that ap towards dex?
     
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    You are correct, MP washing is the process of adding 1 Fresh AP into MP (resulting in minimum MP gain per lvl + BASE INT/10), so lets say you have 200 BASE INT (you will gain the minimum 12MP, and an addition of 20MP from the 200 BASE INT),
    Then afterwards you use 1 AP Reset to get that point from MP back into your main stat - Taking 1 point out of MP will result in losing only 12 MP for BM, which will leave u with 20 MP "profit" for each time you do this process.
    (You repeat this process in order to gain more and more MP until you reach your MP goal)

    You will need do it 130 times, which means u will need 130 AP points to be added to MP.
    Each level u gain 5 AP Points, therefore 26 levels. (5*26 = 130)
     
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    200 base int with 50 int from gear and 95 mp washes will guarantee you get 13k hp at level 135, his numbers were pretty close to optimal given the goals. His explanation is pretty good too.

    Since you're relatively new, I went ahead and did the calculations + instructions for what you want to achieve through a calculator I made a couple of years ago.

    bm13k135.jpg

    Instructions in text form:

    Level: instruction for each level up

    1. Level 1-3: add all AP to DEX
    2. Level 4: add 2 AP to DEX and add 3 AP to INT(25 DEX total)
    3. Level 5-43: add 5 AP to INT
    4. Level 44: add 3 AP to INT and 2 to MP. Use 2 AP Reset to remove 2 AP from MP and add to DEX or STR
    5. Level 45-62: add 5 AP into MP. Use 5 AP Reset to remove 5 AP from MP and add to DEX or STR
    6. Level 63: add 4 AP into MP. Use 4 AP Reset to remove 4 from MP and add to DEX or STR. Add remaining AP to DEX or STR
    7. HP Wash 446 times by using 1 AP Reset at a time to remove 1 AP from MP and add to HP
    (If the buttons for changing HP/MP are greyed out, you will have to use 1 AP Reset to move 1 AP from a main stat to HP to unlock the HP washing system. If you have to do this, remember when you are done washing to use 1 AP Reset to take 1 AP from HP and add it back to a main stat.
    8. Reset base int to 4
    9. All done!
     
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