Let's discuss: do you think this deserves an unban?

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  1. doronos
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    They should build a statue of you in Henesys really.
     
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    I personally get the feeling that if June would've chosen to try to resolve this internally Tim would've gotten his way and her opionion would be swept under the rug, resulting in the same outcome but less actual awareness of the underlying problem. The chance of Staff answering as a united front went out the window as soon as Tim decided to veto whatever the fuck everyone else thought and unbanned his friend, to then strongarm the rest of the Staff into altering the rules with the threat of him leaving if his demands weren't met.

    I agree with your initial opinions but we're far past that stage.

    EDIT: I again was incapable of typing
     
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    in the discord ss it seems like you were insulting her looks and insinuating that she's not physically appealing, doesn't add up here my guy. Maybe you were just riled up by the negative comments you've received, but that doesn't change the fact that in the heat of the moment, you said/did somethings which you shouldn't have. I know that you've privately apologized for your behavior, but if OP chose not to accept your apologies and report you, and you did get banned for, its something that you have to accept and properly appeal against.

    my thing about this is that in the end, you should have gone through an official appeal, and not privately message an admin to discuss/obtain the appeal. Through this, it does appear that you received treatment that most players will never receive.
     

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    I can only say June wasn't the only 1 that disagreed with the situation
    (Not gonna drag other Staff in, they will comment about this matter if they wish to)

    Was hoping she would stay and talk this out ~f4
     
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    I wasn't the one who called him a "corporate parrot" if you were referring to me. And I may have misunderstood his viewpoint, so I apologize for that. I realize he meant he was supporting the review of the rule to see what can be changed and not what Tim wanted.
     
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    I only quoted you in my post but I was replying to a larger audience. No need to apologize though, I was just trying to clear the air for everyone. :)
     
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    As I support the new rules, I guess it may look like I am supportive of the 48 hours requirement

    Personally, the 48 hours doesn't pose much of a problem to me as I wasn't harassed much before in Royals (so my view may be skewed) but I am also open to opinions such as extending the duration to 3 days, 1 week, or even revert to the original format of no time limit

    I have also given my thoughts on this post about the 48 hours requirement - https://royals.ms/forum/threads/sug...um-rules-and-regulations.180203/#post-1052781

    I acknowledge that my views may not be 100% right, but I also open to opinions and will self-reflect if my initial stance wasn't applicable to players that were severely harassed
     
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    Dave, you seem like a real likeable guy and I hope this doesn't rub you the wrong way but you seem really indecisive in this whole matter. How can you say you support the new rules and then say you're open to reverting back to the original format? Isn't part of being a Staff member having a clear morals/opionions and enforcing them in a substantiated way? This really feels like a "I'm good with whatever please don't get angry at me"
     
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    There lies the problem; you are viewing the rule as how it affects you but not how it affects everyone. The fact that there is going to be a time limit, let alone only 48 hours just speaks for itself how problematic this is for others. In cases of harassment it can take literally years before the victims report their incidents.

    @Scratchum explained this phenomenally:

     
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    What the fuck is happening ~f6

    @Don @Petard you guys seeing this shit???
     
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    Perhaps my explanation was vague at the previous response

    I was supportive of the new rules, including the 48 hours requirement initially as it didn't affect me personally (I was not harassed in Royals to such extent before)

    But as other players have pointed out, it can take days, weeks, or even months to actually walk out of the harassment to point out the culprit, which I agree with

    The proposed scenarios of victims being blackmailed into not reporting are entirely possible, I should not deny those players just because I wasn't harassed severely before

    Above is my thought process about why I am okay to revert the changes (if need to)
    The rules should be written in a way to protect the players, not harm the players
     
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    you know this thread has got the real stuff when @MoriForest comes back just to comment ~f11
     
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    Isn’t it funny people here blaming me for getting harassed?

    You’re obviously biased cause you don’t like me :) never agreed with your opinion and never will, you’re disgusting. I didn’t report it a month ago because I thought this harassment will stop, but I kept feeling harassed and that’s just how it is.
    How can you blame me for trying to figure things out before I make a report???

    I don’t want a revenge, I want to reveal your ugly personality to the world. You’re supposed to be banned: you didn’t stop memeing and making fun of me. Don’t play the victim and stand by your own steps. You chose to dox me.

    @Jesseh I don’t see your response anymore, but I mentioned your name cause you were there and saw it lmao I never implied any sides, and kinda sounds like u protect a sexual harasser.

    If I meme people and it’s too much- report me guys. I never sexually harassed anyone and some of your responses are just sad.

    i fucking need more sleep gn
     
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    Where is the evidence please, as far is from my concern I completely ignored you in game since those facts.
    Edit: why not add those claimed happenings to the report to achieve your ultimate goal? (Ban me)
     
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    You love deleting your messages way too much
    But I do have screenshots.
    Whoever is interested in them can pm me ;)
    I go sleep, and i never wanna hear from you again:
    There’s no justification tor your actions and if anyone would like more proof I’ll be happy to dm.
     
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    Evidence for feeling harassed? How does anyone give evidence for such thing?
    Why does she need evidence? from the evidence she posted it's clear that you harassed her now it's you who needs to post counter evidence.
    I wanted to let my niece play this game, after seeing that vile behavior I'll think twice.
     
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    Can you write a response longer than Tim does in ban appeals?

    I think hearing your side could be interesting, but an honest take and not whatever that was
     
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    ok all the former stuff members, i think u little bit confused here,
    matt hes the owner of the server and he picked timk to administrate his server.
    mapleroyals is a succsesful private maplestory server and the result of gtop100 can proof it.
    timk got matts premission to do what he wants to cuz he made this community to this far so he can do what ever he think is right for this server.
    u did ur jobs because u wanted it and u got removed from stuff cuz u broke the current rules in that time.
    now u all crying and hating cuz u got ur power off ur hands? cmon it miserable...
    before u got expelled from the stuff iam pretty sure that u liked timk and matt so u knew to where u steping in! stop crying, if i was timk i allready banned u all from the forum too. stop making dramas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
     
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    With players like u in this server will never introduce this server to my nieces and nephews. We don’t accept you. Rubbish
     
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    Yes, I do recognize it would be wrong for me to enforce my view onto others by missing out on such possible scenarios
    Hence also why the Staff welcomes Feedback

    When changes are made, they aren't finalized, they can still be changed if it doesn't serve its original purpose (such as protecting the players)
     
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