Is dragon purple sleeve REALLY better than maple skanda?

Correction: the sleeve probably has more potential but is much much much more expensive, so my assumption here is that unless you're heavily funded you will not benefit from getting a sleeve, or hardly benefit. After reading the comments I understand dps is better


First of all, according to bbb.hiddenstreet - A perfect sleeve has 53att +8luk
While a perfect maple skanda will have 37att+ 4luk.

Now let's translate 1att to 5luk: Sleeve: 273 LUK, skanda 189 LUK.
So Sleeve only has 84 more LUK, which may seem like a lot, but think again:

You need 150(125 extra) points in dex in order to use the sleeve.
If we deduct it from the sleeve's damage we get: 273-125= 148 LUK. 41LUK LESS THAN MAPLE SKANDA!

The obvious answer to that would be that you can wear dex gear, but in order for that to pay off, you will need to have up to 125DEX in items.
People easily forget that once you scroll an item with DEX instead of LUK, you basically LOSE LUK! And a lot of it!

And remember, when you get/scroll items with dex instead of luk you still lose luk.

My conclusion from this is that this thing is not noticed enough. It just is obvious once you calculate it properly imho.

So ONLY if a person has +41 DEX in items (I'm not including items that have dex instead of LUK!), will he have identical att with his purple sleeve to that of maple skanda.

Looking forward to seeing your comments about this. Dexless FTW.

 

I think the fact that you don't know that 1. Booster lowers AS by 2 and 2. the lowest AS you can reach is 2, already shows you don't really know what you're talking about, personally I couldn't even be bothered to finish your side of the argument.

 

Don't be condescending lmfao.
So take the speed part off. eveything else still counts, if you have nothing to say about it that's your lack of understanding.

 

Yeah man if you go pure LUK instead of adding DEX, you get more luck to do critical damage too! Like more LUK=more LUCK=easy 6 critical lines am i right or what LOOOOOOL

 

Dummy, ya'll can make fun but so far the only thing I had to correct was the att speed limit.
I bet you're butthurt that you put all this effort into nothing

 

That still means you need AT LEAST +41 extra dex to be identical to maple skanda
and for every point you put to dex instead of luk you lose luk

So if you're not gonna address that, you're being a clown

 

You watch your mouth OP imma bring my bloodwashed islander and smack you with giant tuna if you gonna continue calling me dummy. No one talks to me like that except my mommy!

 

Sorry brother, you are not a dummy, but you should read what I wrote seriously instead of clowning

For the sleeve to be better, it'd take probably some very lucky scrolling to get a minimal advantage

 

Alright OP, math's been done for you, pack it up.

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/dexless-nl-vs-enough-dex-to-get-equips-nl.15125/#post-84795

 

I did not calculate it into the absolute, but even if the sleeve passes the skanda(which I mentioned before, probably need extremely lucky scrolling for minimal effect)
So I'd assume it'd still not much better, unless you're heavily funded.

Edited that line now, ty

 

Many equip scrolls don't include luk stats so you are forced to scroll them with dex anyway.

Good examples would be - helmet, bottom-wear, face/eye accessories.

There are luk equips that can also provide high dex as a bonus, without having to forfeit main stats - Ring, Pendant, Medal, Belt, Earring.

The dilemma to scroll equips with primary vs secondary stats only applies for early/middle-tier players. Once you reach the end game, it's possible to acquire 100~150 secondary stats from equips without sacrificing main stats.

 

Thanks for the info.
What you're referring to is not including for example a top with natural dex over natural luk right?

And I guess if you want to surpass maple skanda's att you'd need to be very funded like 10b or so right?

 

The majority of serious players prefer to buy or self scroll good top/bottoms with perfect clean stats. The most common male Thief top has 7 dex 11 luk so 7 dex is already a guarantee.

Your notion "can" work for casual players who don't take this game seriously. However, this server has op drop rates and renowned shortcuts to reach the end game stage with corresponding wealth. Since it's easy to reach the end game, unlike the classic MS, common standards are built around the end game.

I haven't done the calculation to tell the degree of funding that'll favor either side but I'd expect it to be way beyond 10b.

 

x_x
So 10b for hp washing, and another 10b+ for gear
That's hardcore, I'm not planning to sell leech too, probably gonna take forever to make this money

 

dont let them naysayers tell u otherwise,,wear ur bathrobe and start whacking to 200!

 

It really depends on which stage you’re looking at. If you talk about really endgame of end game then dps beats skanda no matter what. The 150 dex doesnt matter when u cs ur hat to 70 dex, top with 40 dex, bot with 40 dex, basically everything cs to maxed stats.. ofc if we talk about players who have to sacrifice so much for that 150 dex then ya your perfect skanda can be stronger. What you miss is that most players achieve that 150 dex without sacrificing much.

 

with all your calculation, you can simply scale down the WA with lower WA skanda vs RC and come out with a hypothesis with at least proper data support before throwing all these calculation.

 

But that's why I posted it to see comments.

 

Zak helm - 30 dex
Christmas nose - 5 dex
Spec goggle clean - 2 dex
Top - 7 dex
Bottom - 14 dex
HTP - 22 dex
Medal - 3 dex
Belt - 3 dex
Krex ring - 3 dex
Total 89 dex from the most basic equipment. You don’t need 10b to prove dps > skanda

In addition, keep in mind that some luck scrolls do not exist/easily obtainable such as helm luck 60%z you can only use dex scroll on helm.

 

Yes I agree with OP. Buff NLs please >.<