Hey man, thank you for the offer but I'm good I'm not exactly new and I am able to leech myself. It was only when I engaged his services, I was leveling a CR mule pre CR changes and I wanted to run some bosses. Unfortunately, I am unable to sympathise with you. You are entitled to feel how you want to feel, I am entitled to do what I deem is right in the situation back then. First of all, let me point out some facts here. - My partner (VivBishop) smegaed to look for a leech seller @ MB2. She previously leeched me for free for about an hour with her character so as any normal human being would, I paid for the next hour of leech as we were supposed to be leech partners. - You (the seller) willingly PM-ed her, came to our map to accept payment and you stated the price 'market' 70m etc. - Within 1-2minutes of seeing that me and my partner were AFK/Semi-AFK, you thought it was a good idea to disband the party and accept another leech job. - In your ban appeals, you started out by playing the victim as mentioning that you had 'connection issues' but clearly, as per my screenshots I have attempted to contact you about the leech and lets face it, leaving 1-2mins into the leech just doesn't put you in a good place in your argument, the intent is clearly there. - I smega-ed shortly after you went offline with MY money, and another player pmed me saying he got scammed by you too. - In your own words, you scammed 4 people in total - I am the victim - You are the offender Let me put this into a real life scenario, so maybe you can better understand the situation, and lets reverse the roles. I am the offender, and you are the victim. I walk into your store, and I steal some candy bars. I proceed to 3 other stores and commit the same crimes. But halfway through my heist, I got caught by 1 of the shopkeepers. The shopkeepers then gather round and confront me, I proceed to tell them a sob story that 'Oh I need these items to feed my family'. However one of the shopkeeper calls me out on my bluff and says 'why do you need a cigarette pack for your family'. From then on my whole narrative is destroyed as the cigarette pack is more of a 'want' than a 'need' to provide for my family. The shopkeepers then proceed to inform the authorities and I get meted with a punishment, say maybe I have to stay in the police station for a few days or whatever. Once I am out of the holding cell, I offer to the merchants to return the goods and I expect a 'Thank you for returning my stolen goods!' from them. Tell me if this makes sense to you. If this makes sense to you I must say you are a very entitled person and props to you. In case it isn't clear, based off the above scenario 'I' clearly do not have the moral high ground and if 'I' had any form of decency, I would be apologetic and doing everything in my power to help the affected 'shopkeepers' out. Now let's bring it back to the context of Royals of you and me. To be honest, the reply I got from the GM's were that yes, you are not obliged to refund me, and I wasn't expecting to get my money back. The only reason why I am even commenting on this thread is a friend of mine noticed you were trying to save your reputation and refund the victims so here I am, stating FACTS that I have not been refunded yet, and here you are trying to put the blame on me and saying its unfair. Lets be real, anything from here on out only affects your reputation. If you do refund me, all I can say is 'Oh I got refunded by AngryBishop!' and perhaps that might help your reputation which you clearly have been trying to save over the past few weeks. What you're doing now with your tone is saying 'Oh why did you not come and find me after I scammed you!!!!' which is victimising yourself when you're the offender here. If what I typed out still doesn't resonate to you, I don't know what will. The community's a rather small place and lets face it, through this thread alone although I have not met @bloodsicle before, he as a stranger even offered to help me out and they are clearly trying to save the reputation of Israeli players. I personally have had many pleasant interactions with Israeli players and one of the first friends I made on royals is still in constant contact with me. You can ask @Mickazoo , he probably doesn't exactly remember my IGN but I do remember Mickazoo as the HTP buyer who was very cute and kept magic guarding every second. What you did was clearly a breach of trust and given my experience with you, I have had to be more careful and started screenshotting almost every transaction I make just to protect myself from such situations from happening again. So tell me, are you truly the victim for having scammed and causing insecurities to others? Also, feel free to not refund me for real. I can't be bothered. This is probably the last message I'll be typing in regards to this thread as lets face it, many people have been trying to reason with you, and you have your own POV. I'll only speak facts like 'AngryBishop refunded me' or 'Its been X weeks since AngryBishop agreed to refund but till date theres still no news'. Simple as that. Have a pleasant day
tbh im mostly happy that he didnt scam a newbie. imagine joining the server, saving you money bit by bit by voting and killing some low level mobs, and having this happen to you. happy mapling
Hahahaha oh my god I am dying here! You guys were amazing! It was one of the best interactions I had so far in Royals! I am sorry I haven't remembered the name! <3
did you seriously write your junk bullshit in English too? get over it and stop scamming gosh, stop blaming others or talking with stigmas about other places. just dont take mesos for leech and go to sleep hoping they won't find out.. and please stop trolling
I heard it in game a few times, some players saying " all israeli players cause the most trouble in this server", and that kind of thing, or similar statements. Its so unfair and annoying to hear sometimes. I bought the rock. Here's a screenshot as proof. 1 refunded, 3 to go.
so your explanation to this instead of admitting you scammed is to blame the other Israelis who lives in Tel Aviv because they were raised to be thieves? thats just racist. and saying "I only scammed one time its not like scamming 100 times", well it is , and you stopped only cause you got caught. so please just shut up about it. thats the least you can do
Please remain respectful to each other, I don't want to moderate a thread that generally aids you guys to resolve your issues. On another note, welcome back Zofran! big fan
He has indeed refunded me. I am by no means insinuating anything against Israeli players and in fact I enjoy interacting with them. I rest my case
I have no idea about the Zofran player who played here in the past, and I ask that you stop calling me or saying I am him when I am not, thats annoying... Thank you. And I ask that we stop this whole conversation about the scamming and israeli players, because I just got a warning in my Inbox from a forum moderator. Or you can continue talking about these things, but Im not gonna participate in the discussion anymore if I'm gonna be forum banned about it. I still think it is unfair that I am on the blacklist but I realize I am not gonna be removed from it, so Im not gonna ask again. And the 3 remaining players can contact me in game to receive their refunds. I think that's everything.
“I got a warning in my inbox... I’m gonna get forum banned... I still think it’s unfair...” Literally all that matters to you is YOU and how this affects YOU. You continually make yourself to be the victim with no effort to see why there is literally no one in support of your side. And to top it off, you still are requesting the 3 remaining (actual) victims to contact you in-game, instead of taking ownership and initiative to simply apologize and say that you will reach out to them. You should probably pay for an IGN change or make a new character, because your reputation on the server as AngryBishop is trashed. Although I doubt that will help in the long run because how you’ve responded shows you have little to no remorse and just what kind of person you are.
But dont you see? people in tel aviv are scammers and thieves who were educated to be scammers, and poor yonatan is an honest upstanding person. it is really not fair that he is on the blacklisst and got punished for his actions, and the one person he refunded a month after scamming them should be grateful for him returning some mesos, as well as every single leecher he doesnt scam should be thankful getting leech from ssuch a nice, honst person. the mere fact he considered paying back the people he scammeed shows how much of an honest upstanding member of the community he is. not only should we remove him from the blacklist, we should consider him a hero, if not more. didnt you see the picture of him obviously not sccamming that guy he was leeching after getting all the negative backlash? isnt it enough that he got banned for 14 days for sstealing mesos from people? he obviously doesnt belong on the blacklist, not when theres actual scammers and thieves from tel aviv. poor yonatan here is just an honest man whose getting flamed for absolutely no reason.
First of all, I asked that we stop this discussion about me. Why cant you respect a simple request? I dont care what you think and if you disagree with the way I decided to handle this issue. What you think about this doesnt matter, end of story. I dont care about reputation. The only thing I care about is that no one gets in my way, and if someone does get in my way, then I hope when I report that person the Staff will take care of him and ban him if it was violating the rules. And by the way, harassment is against the rules, so dont think about harassing me in game about what was discussed here lately. So, I asked that we stop this and you continue. I dont understand why. This is over to me and its pointless to continue. Whether the 3 remaining players get a refund or not doesnt matter right now. I'm not discussing this any further. Now I repeat, learn to respect a simple request and stop talking about me for this long. Who cares about my reputation? I'm telling you, I didnt care not even for one moment about it. I only care about the fact I can play this game. After all this I start to regret asking to be removed from Blacklist and that it was unfair and all that. I shouldnt have asked about it if this is how you react and make big deal out of it. You're not doing me a favor if you would be nice to me or not. So stop acting like you do. Thank you, and cya.
just fyi i saw your smega yesterday selling a specific service and someone sent a smega after you warning people about buying a service from you, I do not think that is considered an harassment and it's totally fine to do, I think... and you should be expecting that to happen alot... people warn each other...hoping a staff can chime in here if I'm correct or not.. also @bloodsicle I'm dead man
you reap what you sow. yet you still want others to forget & forgive you for your "scams"? you want your victims to find you for refund, yet you put in zero effort to find them yourself? is searching in the forum that hard for you that you REQUIRE the community to help you? you talk big about crime rates left and right but you don't see yourself as a scammer due to country's education? you want people to "appreciate" your thinking of good will but put in totally zero effort in actually refund your victims? if you seriously didn't start your nonsense, none of these comments would even exist & you still get to play the game in peace.