Not Bug double stab lvl 1 65% dam does more than Ninja Ambush at lvl 30 100%????

the skill works and does damage just cant kill but the amount of damage is off and its always a set number ,does damage during cancel and it ignore DEF. I taunted on left and one with out same damage on the right.
i have the skill at lvl 30 100% damage
not having MW the damage does change but only by vary little.
weapon att does not affect the skill damage so if you apple you still do the same ???
also i compared it with other skills like
double stab lvl 1 65% damage
steal lvl 42% damage
taunt that has no dam % added or bonus does more than Ninja ambush
2 skill does more than than a skill that has 100% damage but steal lvl 1 42 % damage does less damage ?????
I don't have a NL so not sure if they have the problem.
I no not much players used this skill and think it does not work

I also found a visual glitch with Ninja Ambush at ephenia boss map. when the boss tp around and you cast Ninja Ambush. the ninja doing dam still stays. During and even after death.

 

Afaik this skill is non lethal, meaning it does damage but doesnt kill a mob. Similar to shadow web I think. Can’t be sure.

 

So talk to 2 GM in game about this skill and have a bug report.
One GM told me save your skill points and don't put up the skill.
The other told me it is better actually better than GMS.
This skill was remove in GMS was vary early how would this gm know?
So I notice this skill is not affected by how much weapon attack you have
and is only affected by ability points.I just don't under stand why that is if all your skill are
based on weapon attack and ability points.
I did compared this skill to poison mist because the 2 skill have kinda the same function damage over time
I change weapons with magic attack and with out and the damage over time does increase with more magic attack
So why is (Ninja ambush)at lvl 30 that says damage 100% not get a weapon attack modifier.
I also did try with weapons with magic attack also nothing but if it did work if would be really dumb
all the other skills are worded the same way MP -/ damage %
but why would (Ninja ambush) be missing the weapon attack modifier ?

Just hoping someone can actually have a look
please and thank you

 

Skill is buggy for sure. Sometimes it doesn’t push back, even though you see damage on the mobs. Need some looking into

 

AyumiLove's site states the damage formula to be:

Damage per second tick = 2 * [STR + LUK] * Skill Damage Percentage (Need confirmation for Royals)

Similar to Marksman's frost prey summon, it seems like these 2 skills has % on the skill damage but uses different formula than conventional. Meaning there is no bug or glitch associated with the skill and only NEXON shenanigans.

 

wow so happy someone can actually look in to this and have some info.
Not sure why a GM told me it is better actually better than GMS???
I guess i know why the skill was removed in GMS,it just does suck
wonder if the visual glitch with Ninja Ambush at ephenia boss map will be fix

Thank you #ImVeryJelly

 

The reason why I claimed this was better than GMS was:
In game, I did explain to you that the damage calculation for this skill is based on a ratio of your Str and Luk, but maybe that got lost in translation.

I had already conducted various tests in game (note, this was well before I even joined staff). I concluded that the damage seems to be a little better than the website mentioned.




"This skill was remove in GMS was vary early how would this gm know?"
I looked into the code for a lot of base sources for private servers and looked at the damage calculation that was generally being used (as well as cross checking many forums and website, like the one @ImVeryJelly mentioned). But as you can see, I should be doing 2362, which just isn't happening. This was part of the research I did as a shadower main. I then took the time to actually test different ratios and brute forced the actual damage calculation for Royals.

The damage calculation here seems to be (3 * [STR + LUK]) * Skill percentage. Which, is better than what GMS used to be. So, was I wrong when I told you this? No. Is the skill underwhelming? Yes

Seems unfair that you would claim I didn't know better when I was answering truthfully.

Apologies for the tone I took in this reply. As a shadower main who had conducted tests and gave you a correct and honest answer, and then you claiming that I have no idea what I was talking about made me take personal offense.

 

hey no hard feeling
I just only found out today how the damage calculation is done.
be for that it was just my own testing.
Was just happy that someone gave me something and
today i got the actually confirm calculation from you.
Also my apologies I do not remember you saying
(damage calculation for this skill is based on a ratio of your Str and Luk)
like at all just royals is better than gms.

but hey thank you for the reply

 

Can you guys check one thing? The formula from Ayumilove is per second, does MAX ambush hit 12x in 12 seconds? Or does it hit once every 1.5seconds?

 

Just tested in game, The ability says it lasts 12 seconds, and it hit 14 times (so it actual does even more damage)