HP Gain HP washing is a disgrace to the true OldSchool Maple community

Thank you Maple Royals for providing an excellent nostalgic experience; yet at the same time, reminding me of what ruined Maple Story with the implementation of pay to win structures by slowly stabbing a dagger through the heart of what made this game so magical in such an immersive 2D world.

I have no idea how anyone can support the idea of new players finding out their character is going to be completely worthless down the road because they didn't plan accordingly on how to finesse the system. The old-school Maple Story I remember was if a warrior was prioritizing INT then it was time for him to start a new character, and there was no item to fix this. Having almost no other choice but to buy hundreds of AP resets which most likely was an unexpected loop hole of Nexon's design is not the same standard of properly researching stat prioritization of your character's class. At this rate, you might as well have double exp cash shop items as well, not sure why there's hesitation on stabbing the dagger completely through since you have already pierced through the wound.

The only thing impressive about the HP washing are the calculators I have found out there. I'm quite shocked to find some people really don't have an issue with this. There is no strategy to it, nothing to be proud of, and almost feels as if I'm cheating the game. Please ponder for a moment, do you really think the original developers of Maple Story sat around and designed the game for people to buy hundreds of AP resets at 3,100 NX each? If you were building a game, would you think this would lead to success? Here's a thought, maybe DEF scrolls wouldn't be so worthless if there wasn't a way to manipulate your HP? Items like these were the beginning of the downfall of Maple Story by a greedy organization that was making plenty of money selling people digital outfits / hair.

I beg the developers, please think outside of the box with some aspects of what Nexon did. Always keep in mind that they did make mistakes. It is your job to provide us the Maple Story that won our hearts by providing us an experience to bond with our characters. I would have never fallen in love with this game if creating a Bishop just to fund my other characters was the most viable option to enjoy the game.

Thank you again Maple Royals for your hard work and bringing a nostalgic experience, but please remove the dagger and find a bandaid. I suggest an item that gives characters HP for bosses that's only wearable in the boss rooms, HP bonuses through pq's, or just something other than being forced to manipulate my stats through pay 2 win NX items. Fix the mistakes Nexon did and don't follow their fate that could have been so much better.

 

Bro its not like the character is useless because it didnt hp wash and every player who played more than a month has made a second character it isnt such big deal.
We need to have expensive long term end game structures or we will quit. But maybe putting out hp wash would just reflect in higher prices of other items

 

I just did CPQ with a lvl 48 Brawler kicking 2's on everything because he has nothing but INT gear... I don't understand any of this.

 

Just because some people choose to HP wash doesn't mean it's required. @GunzGaming did a Marksman challenge with no washing and had like 10k hp in a month while actively playing the character with no base int added. It isn't hard and there is plenty of avenues for extra HP to the point where hp washing isn't required at all. However, just because you like to play the game one way doesn't mean that another person's play style is incorrect. Washing is 100% optional now.

 

Yea a problem with this server is that it seems to not gather new people to the server. That guy is just too cheap to buy leech but yeah

 

Over the years there have been numerous updates that adressed the HP washing problem such as daily HP quest, spring of youth, base class HP adjustments and adding equips that have high base HP.

They thought outside of the box with these updates to address the issue.

Here are some links to give you a better idea:
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/com...ir-of-life-reuel-hp-quest-guide-lv120.178648/
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/water-from-the-spring-of-youth.124038/

 

So then it should be eliminated completely so I don't have to prove my worth or explain my position when trying to claim a spot for a horntail raid. Why choose the guy who's doing something different than everyone else and potential risk of him not being able to keep up compared to others who rigged the system?

 

I get it. You want to complain. You don't want solutions, just to complain. Only your view will be correct to you.

 

Yeah it's srsly annoying to see other ppl get rewarded for putting time and effort into the game, how about we also make every character start at level 200 to level the playing field?

 

If I didn't want solutions then I wouldn't post in the feedback forums and would have simply quit. My view of the situation is being blinded from everyone wearing a neon green bandanna as they seem to lack a choice or lack an easier choice.

 

nice forum account btw

 

May I ask how long have you been playing royals? Maybe you will change your view as you progress

 

There's actually a (painful) way to gain extra base HP at higher level. Reul's elixirs quest is repeatable as much as you want until like 9.6k base hp at level 175 (assuming you're a NL or BM).
Quests take roughly 20mins to complete and give an average of 35hp each time (20-50).
That being said, I agree that a new way to gain extra hp by completing PQs would be way more attractive to basically ANY players out there.
Yes, you can still make a 10k hp nl in few months without any wash, but damn let's be honest, at this point most people would just make a bishop and self-leech.

 

I've been playing for over a year when I have time off from school and work. I definitely enjoyed the game more when I was ignorant of why there are so many bishops. Gameplay total, probably only about a month worth.

 

That's my main concern is that most people are choosing one route to accomplish the task and most I have talked to would rather not.

 

You don't have to party with those players though, if they're rich enough to wash their character then they're rich enough to buy leech for themselves.

 

That type of mentality is not what made Maple a popular thriving game though. Any new player thats ignorant of why he's doing damage like that and then calls you a noob for not knowing the reason will simply uninstall the game and never look back.

 

Is ok just a pve games, horntail/auf/zakum didt complain even my teamate all has 30k hp/30k mp.
Btw hp wash is part of nostalgic, i got 2 real life fren from maplesea that has 30k hp NL, pay 2 win? what do they win?

 

i can give u 7 apr if u need tho

 

The old-school MapleStory you don't seem to remember is that HP still mattered. You could be a NL with some sick ATT gear back then, but if you couldn't take a hit from Pink Bean or even Horntail, then it didn't matter, you were effectively a Zakum-only NL.

There is most definitely strategy to it. Sure, you could dump billions into washing a NL to 30k hp, or you could wash to a specific threshold in order to take on the bosses you're interested in fighting. Alternatively, the more HP you have, the more you can focus on prioritizing stats and gear for your class, as opposed to scrolling your items for HP, or say, DEF.

No, I'm sure they didn't. But do you think Nintendo designed Super Mario Bros. to be beaten in under five minutes? Do you play every game 100% as it was designed to be played, without abusing some mechanic or "tech?"

DEF scrolls have always been worthless. Sure, bringing a zhelm into CPQ can negate a chunk of damage, but at end game bosses, DEF won't negate more than a few hundred damage. Plus, scrolling your gear for defense completely ruins that whole stat prioritization that you talked about, as you're potentially losing significant damage output for miniscule damage reduction.

I actually like the ideas you've given to help with increasing HP. However, the main flaw in this statement is the end of it. Literally 0% of MapleRoyals is Pay2Win. You can donate to the server to buy cosmetics, but anything in the Cash Shop that requires NX is free, as long as you vote daily. You can even get NX from most area bosses and expedition bosses to help with this. You know, if you voted every day for the year or so that you've been playing, you'd have nearly 1,000 APRs, which is more than enough to wash a character, maybe even two. If you just can't stand the thought of HP washing, then fine, don't do it. Just don't be upset when people aren't willing to boss with you because you can't survive.