HP Gain HP washing is a disgrace to the true OldSchool Maple community

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    @HPwashSucks at this point, it just seems like you have a deep rooted hatred for APRs, and there's nothing I can do to change that. Good luck with finding whatever you're looking for.
     
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    I find old school MapleStory and Pokemon go hand in hand a bit when it comes to nostalgia. Mainly because you have many different types of Pokemon that the player can use to build whichever team they desire for their adventure. Some favor power, balanced types, 1 type only, cuteness, whichever one they like, etc.

    MapleStory is also similar in a way where we all have unique and different experiences revolving around old school MapleStory. Some players powerleveled for ages and got to level 70-80 while the main bulk of players were around 20-40, some players chilled around in Perion, Kerning City, etc. (the OG henehoes) nobody really knew what they were doing back in 2005.(GMS) Me specifically, I enjoyed killing whatever I could at level 16 and getting enough mesos to buy a ticket to orbis and playing chicken with the Crimson Balrogs in ch1 while we were all daring everyone to go outside lmao. I didn’t care if I died, I wasted so much time just messing around back then. I was also kinda young too (around 6-7) but my brothers were really into it and that's how I got introduced.

    If you brought this up a couple of years ago I would’ve agreed with you, and so would many others too.

    I would spend time to gather all of the resources and links and prepare a nice big elaborate speech on the ways where you can gain HP in exchange for your time to grind out and earn it, but there have been players who have already tried to bring this to your attention and you keep ignoring them because your intention is very clear right down to your Forum name, when you created it, and how you’re acting in this thread.

    Things are changing, and as someone who has been here since around 2014 I have noticed a huge change in the last couple of years towards HP washing meta alone. It will get better but things take time.

    Royals is the longest lasting private Server there ever was. We’re coming up to 9 years of being live very soon, and because of that we’re essentially the pioneers of figuring out what works and what doesn’t. The goal in the very beginning was obviously to stay as close to the original for as long as we could, but you also have to keep in mind that we’ve nearly tripled the amount of up-time actual old school MapleStory was (around ~3 years) nobody knew what they were doing back then people were having fun and exploring the game and before anything could really come to life and having a meta set in; Big Bang happened.

    We cannot make drastic changes, we’ve learned that lesson many times. We’ve added additional ways in alignment with how old school MapleStory worked (EX: grindy, Elixir of Life = time:HP voting 8k everyday or killing bosses = time:HP) and if you have the mesos you can replace the time:HP ratio to mesos:HP instead to get faster results.
     
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    HP Wash is great for slow build in game and achiving hard work goals
    +its why you play here and dont quit after a week cause u got more goals to achive
    +now u can do daily hp quests and achive 1k hp a month around that amount so to say its sucks
    i can agree to disagree with u mate
    anyways good luck on game and if u ask me i think its wonderful
     
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    Tbh, thanks to MapleRoyals, I’ve learnt a lot about HP washing. Back then, iirc, people would have to spend real money to buy NX to get APRs in CS to HP wash. I wouldn’t have done it anyway as it was just too much money spent on something that I had to experiment & not understand the mechanics. I wouldn’t have taken the risk. If I have done it wrongly, I’d have to spend money again to buy NX to revert it. Back then, there weren’t guides nor calculators. Back then, I was also so much younger.

    With due respect to your comments & opinions, I disagree with you because I got to understand the mechanics of hp washing & how it works without paying a single cent here. I guess everyone’s different. I do agree that it takes some time and it might be a little annoying in the beginning but I guess this is also one of the very reasons/features that allow MapleRoyals to still be here for this long i.e. it gave people goals or a target to achieve which requires time & dedication. Some people might leave but there are also some who would stay to continue their journey.

    Anyhow, I wish you all the best :)
     
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    Sorry to hear that you have accepted to use a pay 2 win item because you didn’t have to pay a cent for it on a different platform, guess that makes it acceptable.
     
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    I have hatred for the deep rooted problem of what turned Maple Story into a pay 2 win platform and then using those items as if there’s no harm to the principle of the matter.
     
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    I never ignored anyone, and the initial post had nothing to do with me asking for guidance in a direction to just ignore the underlying issue; that as a new player, I’ve already seen it’s an issue. I’m simply trying to provide feedback that those alternative routes to gain hp should be the only way and a pay 2 win item that ruined old school ms shouldn’t even be in the cash shop.

    This is feedback from an old school mapler that has a beta testing account on original ms and knows every detail of when ms started going down the wrong path. I figured I would just share my thoughts about how I enjoyed the server more when I was ignorant as why lvl 48 brawlers are kicking 2’s on monsters and then calling ppl noobs as if there is absolute no issue with using a pay 2 win item, but since it’s for free on a private server then there’s no harm to it.

    Will the new updates fix it? I hope so, because at this rate, the fate of this server will follow Maple Story which is a long slow painful death. I’ve already witnessed 2 brand new players quit after finding out about HP washing through CPQ encounters together.

    I remember last year CPQ; on my other character, had a lot more new players, but now seems to all be filled with alts. Maybe it’s a Coincidence?
     
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    Mmm, don't ask too much of people that found a niche.
    Keep it simple and follow what everyone is doing.

    If you get too innovative? They'll think you're trying to get them out of their comfort zone and they'll get mad

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hard to ignore it and join the others when I’ve been served a delicious looking bowl of soup, but found out there is a maggot at the bottom of the bowl after already consuming it. I would have preferred to be served a bowl of soup filled with the maggots so I would have completely ignored it in the first place

    Ironically, I enjoyed the soup and trying to help the restaurant out instead of standing outside the establishment with picket signs warning others to not eat here
     
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    Don’t have to feel sorry. It’s like accepting a scholarship to do my degree. It’s definitely acceptable :)
     
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    maggots are a delicacy in certain parts of the world maybe read the menu next time idk
     
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    Please show me the part of the menu I should have read as a new customer ignorant of what maggots are and had to do a google search after finding it in my soup
     
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    A scholarship that you’re comparing this to would be a scholarship rewarded for every student and would question the credentials of that school
     
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    It’s hilarious that you like to win so badly in an argument, even without any basis or solid ground to support your own argument. Yet, when there’s an opportunity for you to “win” (in your own words; not mine) for free here, you don’t want to.

    To counter your argument, pls provide evidence of your accusation. What you’re trying to imply here is that each & every MapleRoyals player is “questioning” the existence of APR in MapleStory & the mechanics of HP washing in both MapleStory and MapleRoyals. Do a petition and get everyone to sign it. Attach that to your argument.
     
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    I never considered this an argument, just responding to people claiming that it’s not a pay 2 win item because they are using the item for free on a private server, but avoided using it on the true old school Maple Story because it costed too much money….

    I’m just trying to open everyone’s eyes to let them know that they are in fact taking part in an exploit that is a disgrace to the true old school community.
     
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    At this point, I know you're upset, but they're really pushing your buttons.

    However it used to be fun when we were all in the same page when we first joined and wanted a nostalgic server :)

    Take it easy, and like a post before, make your own adventure and take the fun you'd have with it and move on. Forcing people to stay forever on the same page as you just won't happen.

    Maybe Royals is as close as it gets to that, so don't close this door if you can compromise a little.
     
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    Firstly, I have never claimed that APR is NOT a pay to win item. Pls check your facts right before responding. I have said from the very beginning that it is indeed a pay to win item in MapleStory and that is also the reason I did not attempt to HP wash when playing MapleStory back then.

    Secondly, you DID consider this an argument.

    Thirdly, I don’t see a problem using something for free even if one did avoid using that very same thing in the past because it was expensive. I gave you my opinion from the start but you replied me with your argument so rudely. Let me give you another example. I didn’t have money to buy an iPhone back then because it was too expensive. However, there’s an online lucky draw/competition whereby one will have a chance to win an iPhone for free. All you have to do is to tag 3 friends and write a caption. This concept is similar to voting for NX here and saving for APRs. I’m trying to provide an example as close as to the picture here. Finally, I’ve won the iPhone. Your “respond/opinion” is for me to NOT use the iPhone because I’ve avoided using it in the past as it costed me too much money.

    Lastly, I don’t need you to open my eyes and I’m pretty sure many would think the same way too. Thank you!
     
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    Sorry if I came across rude.

    You clearly stated in your first response that you disagree with me when all I have been expressing is how APR is a pay 2 win item and players found a loophole to manipulate their hp much easier beyond intended development.

    Not sure how a lucky chance of winning an iPhone is comparable to abusing a pay 2 win item that is rewarded to everyone, but everyone has their own opinion I guess.
     
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    I clearly stated in my first response that APR was a pay to win item. I believe everyone who disagreed with you here has the same disagreements as me. It is super clear that we all agreed that APR was a pay to win item. I repeat that APR was a pay to win item. However, that does not mean that I/we agree that, as per your title of this post, HP washing is a disgrace.

    APR is not rewarded to everyone here. You have to vote daily. It takes consistency and time. You may also need to earn mesos in the game by playing the game for you to be able to buy more APRs and HP wash within a shorter period of time.

    Tbh, I’ve never seen someone who likes to win so badly. Scholarships are not meant to be rewarded to everyone. Yet, you still find a way to argue. I’m tired of replying to someone like you. However, I do sincerely accept your apology and it’s good to know that you finally understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. My last reply and goodbye! Good luck and enjoy MapleRoyals :)
     
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    Right but if you apply for the scholarship and everyone who applied gets the same reward(scholarship), then what’s the point you’re trying to make?

    Most people who responded disagree with the item being a pay 2 win item as they miss understand the message as I’m referring to the item directly in regards of the price of it within the private server. I’ve read your initial response and don’t see anything about you claiming it’s a pay 2 win item. I see that you point out other players would spend a lot of money; which imo, it was manipulated to the point where it was an unfair advantage, yet is acceptable on this platform because it is free as long as you press the vote button.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I am having a real hard time understanding how warriors and brawlers walking around in int gear is going to attract new players and create a strong community of DIVERSE opinions. Diversity is the epitome of what made maplestory great and is why no one will change my opinion on how this exploit that’s only acceptable by a select group is not a disgrace.

    When someone misleads you into something that it’s not and takes your sparse spare time, you will understand the passion I have expressed on this situation
     
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