LHC Class Tier List

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    Oh my god the constant screenshake from those mobs. I couldn't survive an hour of that without getting motion sick
     
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    Yeah Cream took it off at a certain point, it was making me sick too just watching it :D
     
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    I don't know why I take so long to turn off that :p
     
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    I/Ls are insane at Blood Reindeers, to the point where you could have a party of 6 I/Ls to generate tons of totems for gach.

    F/Ps can very likely hit damage cap (200k on up to 9 mobs) meaning upwards of1.8m damage every few seconds and pulls mobs closer together on all platforms.
     
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    Yup, i once joined a mage run at Blood Reindeers and the exp was insane (5 I/L and 1 BS).

    My I/L is decently equipped and I can hit between 170 to 190k+. A high level, well-equipped I/L could easily hit max dmg on Blood Reindeers too. SE is also a great addition to a mage team if you cant find other mages to join.

    I feel that F/P and Bishop should also be higher in the Blood Reindeer List to a C. Their damage cant compare to an I/L there, but they can still deal decent damage and being able to hit all 3 platforms at once make them great mobbers.
     
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    If any1 tracked the exact exp gain would be more than happy to add it to the %/hr thread
    I tried to get a golem run going a few times but never succeeded
     
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    What about beginners?
     
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    would love to know who the pro sairs are and if there is any testing or actual math backing this theory. guess I just need to make more pro sair friends...
     
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    Hi i am the one who told him about this but i am not top sair neither pro sair here.

    In math Torpedo has slightly higher DPS than Splitter combo due to the recent change to bearwolves (but of course I never did math for this class because in my opinion Sair’s dps is really depending on how you control this class in different scenarios and math only works for those brainded bosses like krex). Also i replied to your previous feedback to splitters and explained that how good is current dps of splitters. Idk if anyone noticed this but both splitters can reach further than what the animation shows.

    So why i concluded splitters combo is better at LHC than torpedo. Your mobility is better if you use this combo than torpedo since you have to move constantly in LHC , this combo let you move yourself immediately because you do not need to dismount and you can use your recoil shot without any dismounting delay to move yourself up or down. You can as well reposition yourself immediately back to the attack range of your skill ( you can stick to monsters while casting this combo) using recoil shot if you are knocked back to far left or right without constantly dismount and remount because the monsters are usually targeting your party’s rushers and not you so the monsters are usually stick to the middle. If you do not dismount you have to reposition yourself back with that 80% speed on ship. I believe these scenarios I mentioned above are enough to explain why splitters combo is better than torpedo in LHC. Of course if you have smokescreen in your party torpedo is better than this combo since you do not get any knockback when smoke is up.

    Just to clarify this is just my method on how to play a Sair in LHC and not forcing people to follow it , if you feel this method is better i am glad it helps but if you feel this method is worse just use the way that you are comfort with. :D

    If anyone can really test LHC run with corsair would be nice since i do not play as much as before now and i do not have extra time to test a full hour run on my sair (i did only some test alone after the patch).

    *This assumption is with maxed elemental boost/Fire& ice capsules/ maxed ice and fire splitters.
     
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    Lol you mad bro
     
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    Thank you. gotcha, so just theory, but I get you it could be possible. I'm gonna test it, my EB is 20 so it's not too hard to use some resets and max it. I'll test it solo and in a party then post the results.

    as for @cagedmercury no idea who you are or why you messaged me out of the blue. ~f6 feels real stalker-ish lol. moving on...
     
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    I think solo will have different outcome since the mobs will be lured by you instead of rushers . If possible try to join a lhc party and let us know the outcome here. :D Thanks!
     
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    I was offering you some advice; I recognized your IGN from an LHC run that I couldn't take you because we were full. Usually the Sair community is very friendly, welcoming and happy to give and receive advice and share tips. I see you are an exception; immediately telling me I know nothing, insulting my friends (btw my range is higher than yours and nowhere near those pros you are insulting). Then you SS and run crying to forums, and somehow I'm the stalker. Toxicccccc. Yes, please do move on.
     
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    just finished LHC bearwolfs run with bowmaster and archmage F/p in party, 260m exp in 59 minutes.
    Party composition was: 1BM, 1 AM F/P, 2 Shads, 1 bucc, 1 hero

    we can do better next time :8): had dc,lag
     
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    i agree with @Officially depends on sair's control as mobility is slow on battleship for LHC dynamics and also can eazy break from constant attacks if careless, and often different party formation which changes the style a lot

    in other hand flame/ice combo also opens for easier use of air strike as it can't be used on ship ~f4 (air strike veritcal is also super high and can set mobs above much better for rusher or even if rushless ) it also open for use of beacon faster
    use of both ice/fire combo + troped accordingly seem best

    corsair underated at LHC (a bit harder fit in ideal PT set ye but manageable it can't be perfect in all parts but seem well balanced ! ) also corsair masterrace ~f5
     
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    Yeah, keeping ship up with torpedo is an art...I can do 0-1 ship deaths in the full hour but it's a lot of paying attention to positioning, and sometimes melee knock/rush into you.

    I did a 2-3 runs using splitter combo and it did seem faster, but it's hard to tell, you are only 1 of 6 in a party. Testing it, I did more damage across both splitters on average and faster to cast both than 1 torpedo, but I didn't sit down for a long time and crunch numbers.

    Air strike is amazing when people are rushing but I feel like it's a DPS loss anytime you have grouped mobs on which you can be using splitter/torpedo.

    And yes sadly Sairs always have to fight to get into LHC, it's a very misunderstood class...we are not NLs!!
     
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    farming Reindeers for two hours now for EB 30 to drop. do yall even have max EB and how long did it take to drop for you? if you have it maxed send me that juicy SS for motivation...
     
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    Yeah I have max EB. Books are expensive, I farmed reindeer for maybe 45 minutes with Dark/Sair dual attacking and got lucky. (This is after failing 2 bought from FM!)
     
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    Check which type of reindeer btw... It only drops from one type, I was farming the wrong kind for a while (I think white reindeer but don't quote me on it)
     
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    The whites ones are correct!
     

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