Perfect clean kanzir scam

I was innocently selling my kanzir without knowing about this situation, I am very sorry for what happened to you, i guess, makes sense why everyone offering 500M in-game also at forums~

 

LOL posts opinion blaming one side then says they aren’t taking sides

 

Thank you for selling it to me

 

Many people discussed this issue from a moral perspective, but even from a legal point of view, it can be regarded as unlawful.

There is a concept in contract law, naming "Unconscionability". It is generally defined as taking undue advantage of an inequality in bargaining power. Typically, an unconscionable contract is held to be unenforceable because no reasonable or informed person would otherwise agree to it. Even the trade has done, the seller can revoke the contract.

You can easily find the introduction from Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability, and you can even find some canadian case in this page.

From a moral perspective, this behavior is definitely bad. From a legal perspective, this behavior can be regarded as unconscionability. (It is controversial. There are both positive and negative cases in real world)

I strongly recommend that the buyer should renegotiate the price with the seller. 80% of the price or even 60% can be feasible.

The profit that the seller earned may be something to him, but it is everything to the seller.

Sorry for my poor english!

 

Good intentions but wrong usage of doctrine. Doesnt apply here because theres no oppression and its a 2d mushroom game.

Not the best idea to use wikipedia as reference either.

Asshole move yes but its not wrong

All I have to say.

 

@NANI1 has limited the people who could view his profile.

Your friends, guild, guildmates, and family are all viewed in a negative light all solely because of you.

Is cowering into loneliness and bringing negativitiy attached to your name forever so that you need to start a new forum ID, in-game character, and personality in order to resume playing this game all worth it for 6bil?


I think a likely possibility is him RWT the dagger away and leaving the game for good, so better keep an eye out to stop that trade if it happens.

 

Getting flashbacks of reseller tactics from Neopets and my multi-page blocked user list there

Pulling shit like this on a server this small and close-knit is a real choice.

Glad how this turned out in the end.

 

IMO this is a straight scam. Old player offering 94% off the real price of an item to a new player is just disgusting. We're not looking at a buyer offering 400m for a CS here, we're looking at a straight steal.
There's no way you can justify that kind of behaviour. I personally hope I'll never have to deal with nani in any aspect of the game.
Well done buyer, you just proved your ethic moral worths 6b mesos.

 

In the real world one party has to have a superior bargaining power.

This wasnt the case in this trade.

They both agreed to trade.
They both could leave the deal at anytime before the trade was done.
Seller was not in a take it or leave it position.

I am not defending the buyer. I believe even merchants should have their own set of principles they should abide by.

I am merely stating facts because I dont want people to think this falls under a scam and be afraid of lowballing or merching in the process. I hope you understand

 

so many well-educated lawyers in this server

 

Your turn soon?

All the best with the bar.

 

cringing irl

 

I admit it is controversial. I mean, the unconscionability also applies to situations where there is a huge gap in cognitive ability between the two parties.

Imagine an eight-year-old child sells his diamond ring to a businessman for $1. We tend to consider that the child doesn't have the ability to express his intention, so the contract is invalid. (Actually it's not the case of unconscionability, but it explains the importance of cognitive ability and valid intention in a contract)

In this case, it highly depends on the cognitive ability of the seller. If we think the seller is just like a kid, who has no idea about the price and even has no concept about the money (I guess he just thinks 500m is really really a lot of money), it is at least debatable that the contract can be revoked.

I absolutely agree that merchants are not guilty. It's great to earn money with your experience, your judgement and your wisdom. But the law gives the weak a certain amount of protection. The buyer in this case cannot simply claim "freedom of trade".

 

there should be a punishment for public accusing someone of scamming on forums.
Seller clowned and can’t accept his own mistake. Don’t go back by any means, @NANI1
It’s the seller who should be embarrassed to write such a post

 

@mods requesting a background check on this account

 

Damn that’s a shiity move by offering 500m

 

its okay we got some google doctors as well.

IMO saying "seller should have known" or "seller should have done their research" is just victim blaming.

 

I saw sumiflowers reaction in alliance chat and the joyful glee he had when he announced getting the item from a naive player. Unfortunately i even saw a few fellow alliance members who joined in on the celebration. At the time i had no context to any of that till i saw this thread. And now that i do im absolutely embarassed. When exactly during your time on Royals did things go from enjoying some nostalgia, to letting virtual items on a private server rob your brain of just being a decient human fucking being?

I somehow end up disliking you even more after i see you try and claim the op and this thread is defaming your reputation because attention is being brought to what you did , as if your actions had no impact what so ever on your reputation being ruined. Just fucking lol.

 

I just got pointed at this, i know is late and i saw the memes and other threads but didnt know that all this happend here aswell ... And don't think pointing on us is same case as yours

Yes OreStore buys for "low" and sell "high" (" "because low-high prices in ore market mostly is if not fully set by OreStore and the demand-supply)
also just because some of them are "high" price in OreStore dosnt mean thats the price they sell at like other

In other hand players that chose to sell in their own stores and has few ores,plates and crystals often underprice to sell quicker or to make space in their stores for other items, but that dosnt make the final price for them

The buy prices in our case are open for all to see on forum and are often updated as market moves as you show in your screenshot we don't hide or change prices without notice

We care for all the sellers same way and offer trust worthy service , i and Asch allways paid and will keep do as is listed in the forum

We have sellers that enjoy our service and that we buy out all of their ores,plates and crystals from their etc space or mules space instead of droping/npc them regardless of the ore,plate or crystal type (yes ALL even the one that many think is trash don't drop or npc them we can help you )

If someone wants to sell them for higher in their own store and has time and space for it, i say go for it we don't mind,merching is part of royals and maple in general, we are open and do help evryone, if someone felt bad during mine or asch service please let us know how to resolve or improve !

(just please there is no need to come over our stores and block us there is plenty spacs in FM to set your stores respect eachother please and enjoy !)

Sorry for going off topic and my bad english hope this clears a bit

 

Not gonna lie, I had your bow with me at one point. It wasn't me who bought it, but I had it with me when my friend tried selling it. In hindsight not selling it back to you was very meme worthy, so...