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Thank you for the clarification. Being in Leafre confused the heck out of me. I understand now those were the chat logs in mid HT.

That being said I do believe you did not outright flame them but also not able to determine if they were trolling from the chat logs.

 

Right, I don't care too much if they get put on the blacklist or not. I'm just not gonna sit idle while you tell your guild/friends I was toxic and I was some evil random in your horntail without me getting my side of the story out there. This wasn't even our first or last horntail together.

 

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Context matters, typing zzzzz when you are in a 3 hour duo HT run means you are sleepy, typing zzzz when you go -5 on a CS means rip item. In your scenario, typing zzzzz after you been told there isn't a door means you are obviously annoyed, so I don't think it's about the act of typing zzzzzzz but more towards a courtesy issue as you were displaying your annoyance openly by typing that when there was no door, even though they waited for you to finish your Zak. Since she's the host, she took your annoyance more personally and that's probably why she didn't want anything from you, hence she took on your role as sed. Highly doubt that there was any intention to troll or grief the run.

 

i'm not gonna comment on whether recruiting you as sed then proceeding to sed on her NL is blacklist-worthy or not, i frankly don't even know how this blacklist system operates nor do i take it seriously

i do agree that the run was made less optimal and more dps was probably lost as a result of her NL sedding (and dying twice to sed) instead of your shad sedding, which was supposed to be the plan.

but i still find it hard to wrap my head around how this is griefing though, because if anything, she's inconveniencing herself the most by needing to ress herself after dying no?

the bucc/auf example you raised is disanalogous, she's the host of the run, she did not show up to YOUR run and take sed priority to inconvenience YOUR bs mule (or anyone else in then party) by being sed/dying to sed

perhaps i don't know the full story, but as @lxlx mentioned, i'm also struggling to see this as trolling/griefing intentionally

 

Saw some people forum post on Blacklist about him scamming.
He came to me to buy some fames.
Seems like a Noob Newbie.
Not sure if he gonna scam people again.
Please be careful and record trade just be safe.

 

There was no waiting, she was still smegaing filling roles as zak was finished. Hence why I showed up with se when she had already filled it and didn't tell me. I agree with your point on context.

I mean... how much of an inconvenience is it really to alt+tab to your bs mule and idle while tl comes off cd? I'd argue not much tbh.

I don't think it was intentionally trolling/griefing at first either but, its like, if you sit around with a jammed gun and aim it at your foot and pull the trigger. You have this nice shad bulletproof vest next to you that you could aim at, but you decide to mess around and shoot yourself in the foot. THEN you decide to mess around and shoot your other foot, meanwhile the team has to carry you to the hospital.

Why would your first bloody foot not make you aim at the shad? ....or will.....or use your bs mule to heal.....

Whatever, I'd rather be put on those guilds blacklist for making this post as opposed to some bullshit zzz excuse shes decided to take offense to, when her actions were far worse than mine.

 

Honestly your “ZZZZZ” shows how uncooperative you’re probably gonna be in the horntail run, and for god’s sake everyone knows how painful a uncooperative teammate will be in any game.

The seduce mechanics in horntail is designed to kill the player, and logically a shad on apple probably does more dps than a NL when they’re at the right side. Theres a hundred and one ways you can look at it.

Heck you can even say that catsclaw simply just doesn’t wants to talk to you and inconvenience you any further & get it done and over with.

Yes inefficient problems can happen inside a horntail run, but you guys cleared it nonetheless?

If theres any splits, I believe its distributed evenly. You can’t expect every run to be great, you can’t expect everyone to think like you either.
With all that, just accept it and move on.

Just my 2 cents

 

To me - taking into account all the context of this server and small community - it seems really extreme to NOT ban a proven, malicious scammer for at least 30 days (and additionally strip them of all their mesos and items and of course return all the stolen stuff) no matter how much they scammed for.

Is not intentional scamming very malicious to such a small community?

Also I dont see how there will be a positive atmosphere with such people in the future in such a small community?

 

1. IGN: x3frozen
2. REASON: Leech Scamer. I smega buying leech 75-78. He whispers me says 60m/lvl. I say lmk when to tp during trade then he says "wait here"
I wat 1 minute then /find him, hes in ch1, we were previously in ch 14. I msg him ? and he's offline.

3. DETAILS:

 

I would suggest that you try and reach out to them a few more times. Otherwise, I would make sure that you follow these guidelines and report them because you have enough initial evidence to get them banned.

 

Hi, I'm Gimmemana. Catsclaw was asking my nl issit in wiggle guild, she just typo "bl in wiggle?"... you misunderstood it

 

that more than checks out in the screenshot

 

1. IGN: marmota
2. REASON: leech scam
3. DETAILS: I bought 1 hr leech from Marmota and at the time I asked him to go to fm because my mules don't have mesos on them. After the hour was over, I said I could do another and said I would give him 6 apples as a guarantee for the 70m payment, since again, my mules didn't have mesos. In the ss I clearly said I would give him 6 apples, take it back and pay him 70mil and he said 'okay'. I gave him 6 apples, he asks for 7 but I only had 6 on my mule so I tell him I only had 6. I didn't ss everything since the 1st hour was fine, but basically in the fm he asked me to pay 70m, so I asked for the apples back, but he wouldn't give them. Then I said, if you want the apples, that's fine, I'll give you 1 more for 7 apples for 70 mil, to which he replied 'yes'. He then leaves party.

Additionally, he isn't a great leecher anyways as I often noticed that hs had run out even though I barely paid attention to my mules.

 

I don't see him asking you to pay him 70m on top of the 7 apples he got. You also say, if he want the apples that's fine. So where's the scam here?

 

where is catsclaws on all this ?
so far for me he is pretty chill in terms of running or organizing boss runs

we just seeing your side of the story and what u think....
maybe you are the clown in this....
and this horntail is design to fk with u

reacting to zzzzz for no door seems like u are annoyed

 

Well if you take into account the fact that I paid him 6 apples, I should at least get 6/7th of a 1 hr leech for the apples right? In the 2nd ss, in bottom right window, you see him leave party as I'm whispering about if he's trying to scam me. Basically I lost 6 apples and didn't receive any additional leech. If he didn't want to leech me, he should've just given the 6 apples back.

 

Please assure your screenshots are not cropped. Your name needs to be visible as well. It also lacks a ~servertime check.
The other person I assume did the mapowner check, saw no one currently owned the map and took it. That's completely in their right to do according to server rules. So you're basically just shooting yourself in the foot here by providing evidence of staying there when the new mapowner asked you to leave. If you are actively playing the game and attacking mobs, this problem won't occur.

 

I hate that type of guy. Don't have respect to other player and selfish.
but rule is rule if you lose map owner, you have to leave.