A recent update might give you some hope that the rare Concerto drop might be rectified. The Maple Karstan use to be extremely illusive, only being dropped by Sr. Bellflowers, but with the release of Magatia, Roids (I think) drop the Maple Karstan. Whatever way you want to interpret this updated drop is up to you, but I feel it gives some of us that are hunting for Concertos a glimmer of hope.
That would be nice! I'll keep my hopes up. Also, I just want to reiterate again that you can't really compare Concertos and sleeves. You are essentially given 8 free chances at Gacha every day, whereas ever time I craft a revolver I have to put in a Concerto as well as millions in materials. It's a very different process.
Yes, you can get a revolver from gacha. If anything, you can't compare the two because purple sleeves are MUCH harder to get than guns.
Whoops, did forget about that! But again, so many more people gach at Kerning vs Nautilius which increases their overall availability. Good point though, I essentially have 8 free chances at a revolver everyday too.
I think all classes and their weapon drop rates/ gach rate should be looked at like said earlier, Showa is a pretty bad gach, Nautilus might have it's problems, not sure all items that comes from that gach. Kerning has potential of having good items, but purple sleeves are very rare. Henesy has too much junk inside that gach, so Bm's having trouble getting bows. Maybe trouble for F/P and I/L mages having trouble finding those ele wands. These are the things I heard people complaining on, if you buff one class you have to look at every class and not make weird buffs or increase the easiness of the game. It would be fun to actually have a point to gach at other places than shrine/NLC.
Showa isnt too bad for money and you get maple leafs. But yeah for some reason noone gaches there, which sucks for all the drks
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ @ egonic that was really my overall point, as i stated in the original post, i obviously don't know everything about all the classes and I just thought it would be good to examine and discuss this. ~i never meant to start a war~
It really didn't. Just because a craven was used as an example doesn't mean it's corsair vs nightlord. As mentioned before it's also requested to increase the rate of nescheres for mm, skis for drk I guess, and maybe even sleeves for nl if it's really a problem. It's not a thread that has its goal to put one class above another, not at all. The reason concertos was the main target is because that is just something we've personally tested with little groups of people, where we noticed that even though the droprate per individual mob was more than double higher than the droprate of a craven, due to the mob density / map design it was just dropped less frequent. If you want to point out other weapons that have a ridiculously low rate of being obtained / dropped, feel free to do so.
All I heard from you was bashing on how NL's are having such an easy time and they should just get a Craven. Then some that actually got the point, pointed out the other classes that are having problem as well.
This thread was prediscussed by some of those who you call to be the ones who got the point. Originally I was going to make a petition for it and include items such as nescheres after having checked the droprate and mob locations with information provided by GMs. It just happened to be that I was out the day after discussing it and thus I didn't get to create it. Sorry if you saw it as a battle of corsairs vs nightlords, it was not our intention. The craven was just a commonly dropped weapon that came to our mind at first when we asked for droprate numbers for comparison.
It really was a sair post until YOU came in and made it at NL vs. sair post. You only have yourself to blame for this mess
He really only came in and made some critique's then multiple people saw it as a claim that NL's needed a buff when it really wasn't. Then it went downhill from there
why bring up NLs though? This is a post about certos which only affects SAIRS. every other class is irrelevant to this discussion
certos are lvl 100 guns. cravens are lvl 100 claws. there are nothing wrong with craven drop rates. NLs arent affected by similar problems
