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  1. Stephen
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    I want to set the record straight for an IGN that was put on this Blacklist, Wumay, from the post here:

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/community-blacklist.166479/page-134#post-1334685

    There is another IGN very similar to Wumay, which is VVumay. VVumay was the IGN that sold that Dragon Kanzir in their store, NOT Wumay. These IGNs do not belong to the same person.

    @Muttaqi Mohammed, I just wanted to let you know that you accused the wrong person. I think it would be best to apologize to @495ysRipple for your case of mistaken identity.
     
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    We would also like to clarify that this would be 1 of the rare exceptions where Staff post a public clarification due to the damage done to both Wumay and SummonShade caused by the impersonator's action

    I would strongly recommend the impersonator cease such impersonations (or any attempts to sabotage other players), please note that the Staff reserves the right to take necessary actions against impersonators (especially one with malicious intents)

    Should you notice any cases of malicious impersonation, we would strongly recommend you submit a report with the relevant context (supporting screenshots) so that the Staff can discuss and take necessary actions
     
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    I am sorry to @495ysRipple I made a big mistake. The impersonator had almost exactly the same name and seeing the name pop up in the smegas just a few days later I thought it was the same person. As a result of knowing this I removed the innocent person's name and screenshots regarding the conversation from the main post and have only included the actual store interaction with the impersonator that is still unable to be found. Again I am sorry to @495ysRipple.
     
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    IGN: MM0RPG
    REASON: Store scammer, harasser
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    Sorry for early server drama :'(. I have been getting harassed recently, presumably cause of my discounted leeching
    This guy buys ALL my items, sets up a store on server reset and names it bakery ( bakery is what I usually titled my store ). Then sets up a perfect dsb scam in his store, seems like a very elaborate and obvious scheme to frame me
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    IGN: MyCrazyHeal
    REASON: Harasser
    DETAILS: Guy keeps following me to disrupt goby session. He initially followed me to attempt to steal my items while I changed goby gear and then very blatantly come to the maps to disrupt my customer's goby sessions. I didn't report or post to blacklist initially since we eventually got through with the leech and this guy looks like he is currently ban but if there is a group targeting me I am posting them up. I am no pushover :pepez:

     
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    Another 100% scrolled "perfect weapon". I know you have to be careless to fall for this, but if bundle scams are blacklistable I think this should be too. The intent behind it is exactly the same ("who knows, maybe someone will fall for it lol"), and the payoff is way bigger.
     
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    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/thi...ked-from-connection-help.217251/#post-1293551
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ban-appeal.221703/#post-1335632
    might as well give him another 14 days of vacation for Objectionable behavior, Kill-stealing, Map Looting.
     
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    IGN: CHVN51O
    REASON: Impersonating and scamming
    DETAILS: i sell skele 2hr split leech for 2 ppl (name list in image)as my 186bishop(a little high lv nvm^_^'), but some1 was dc in 2nd hr(wisma),so i try smega to find his main character cuz maybe hes online but didn't notice mule dc . then, CHVN51O pm me and said he is wisma(dc buyer) ,want me do that refund leech pay cuz he gtg 。but i reject pay for it cuz CHVN51O cant prove wisma is his mule,so he was crying i m trying to make him out a liar and left.after maybe 1hr, wisma was online and take back his leech pay.

    He wasn't cheated me out of meso tho , but i report it beacuse maybe some1 will be scam again.[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    'twas a social experiment to see whether this type of scam would be feasible in reality, a theoretical endeavour. I would have refunded 90% of the mesos. I humbly apologize to all parties involved and this behaviour will not be repeated in the future.

    forgive me for my trespasses mapleroyals community ^_^'
     
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    Leisure/Moeed, please don't come back to Royals and bother us with your "social experiments"
     
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    A bit split on the +7 perfect weapon thing tbh. Would like more opinions if that should be blacklistable or not.

    I didn't add CHVN51O since it turned out to be Leisure/Moeed and they got banned straight away.
    Even though it doesn't matter, I'm still wondering why he was going to return 90% of the mesos if it was just a social experiment. Imagine this irl, you steal 100 dollars, say "just a prank bro" and then return 90 dollars. That's still theft ~f3

    This is my reaction to your social experiment:
     
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    I'm on the camp of this type of case not blacklist worthy.
    For transactions through stores, the information is all readily available for buyers to review.

    Both buyers and sellers have to do their due diligence to make sure their transaction value is correct.
    Mistakes made while being in a rush/greed just isn't right to push the whole blame to another party.
    What if sellers made a mistake missing a digit in price listing and proceed to scream blacklist the buyer for not buying it at market price? This just won't fly. I'm of the opinion buyers have to be hold accountable for this similar mistakes on the other end of the spectrum.

    The exception would be, if there is a recorded chat history the buyer being introduced/advertised the specific store is selling item A but in actual it is item B. Now this is worthy of listing both the seller and advertiser in the store scam blacklist.
     
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    I agree with your opinion in principle. In actual execution, i do not.

    Far more often then not, these people who "missprice" items, do it soley because players will not check and they know its an easy way to get free money. Most players are either lazy or naive or both. And these sellers willingly pray on that. Im extremely pessimistic in regards to situations like this, because overwhelmingly, whenever ive seen someone attempt to reach out to whoever sold the item, the seller ignores or feigns ignorance they even sold an item which is what the dagger guy did.

    To me this thread is simply making a list of people who are found to be doing scummy, yet not normally ban worthy things ingame. Misspricing items like 0 slot 5 atk scgs for market value or scrolling an item that should be gray quality to appear to be a blue quality dagger for max meso qualifies as black listable to me.
     
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    That's not what he did. The person who bought the dagger contacted the wrong person. He bought it from VVumay and contacted Wumay, who of course had no idea what happened as he's a different person.
     
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    Ahh yeah, Ok youre right. I still stand by my opinion that the shop stuff should be blacklistable. If we add bundle scams i think this stuff should be as well.

    The dagger seller guy should be blacklisted even more when you add in the ign impersonation and how he used it for scummy fm shop behavior
     
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    1. IGN: BlueField
    2. Reason: Fame Scam
    He was messaging "B>fame". I famed him and then traded him. I watched him leave fm. I /find'd him and met him in Hene. After confirming my name he said "one sec let me check" to where he promptly logs off.
    3. Details: I included screenshots of the initial attempt to fame and me finding him in hene and confronting him.
     

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    I bought fame from him earlier and he payed, maybe he just have connection issues.
     
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    I have been messaging him as he continues to log in and message "B>FAME". he is ignoring me or avoiding me every time....
     
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    Weird.
    I bought fame and went first and everything went fine.
    Guess he decided to start scamming.
     
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    If someone is selling "a fake perfect weapon" in their store for such a cheap price, whether or not it's blacklistable (knowing the obvious intention of selling such an item), they're still free to post it here to expose it to others, which is good in my opinion. Since then, it's up to your personal judgment as to whether it's okay to do it or not.
     
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