Adding a possible bundle for AP resets?

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  1. LamiaZealot
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    ATM it's 3.1k for 1 ap reset we have it for gach and tp rocks why not ap resets too?


    Would 30k for 11 be a viable option?

    etc, etc.
     
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    In my opinion, a good idea if implemented earlier but if implemented now, it would be kinda unfair to the people that have already bought 1k+ ap resets via the normal option.
     
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    Or just bundles without price discount. For ppl buying high amounts and dont want to click 300 times :p
     
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    If Pink Bean were to be released or rumored to be released, I think nerfing the cost for AP Resets would be in order to maintain sanity and balance 0:)
     
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    Well if ppl don't take the chance of washing now when ap resets are cheap then their problem.

    Don't think there will be a rise in ap resets if PB comes, making a new char to 180 is a bit tough.
     
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    I disagree with that point as if that argument is used, pretty much nothing can ever be changed or bundled.
     
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    Did I say that?
    AP resets are not the same as "every other item in the cash shop".

    For the people that have bought 1,500 ap resets at the current price.
    1,500 resets = 4,650,000 nx = 46,500,000,000 mesos.

    If you added the "30k for 11 bundle"
    then: 2700 nx per reset
    1,500 resets = 4,050,000 nx = 40,500,000,000 mesos.

    That is what? a 5bil discount? that is not tiny, and "does give new players an advantage over old school washers".

    The 'founding' of mp washing already has given new washers A HUGE ADVANTAGE, so you will be adding even more fuel to that fire. If the MP washing "bug?" was discovered sooner, I would have a 30k shadower and my night lord could easily be around that as well (same with vaseline).

    Just because i'm saying bundling ap resets is unfair does not mean that bundling other items in the cash shop are unfair, since the volume of AP resets purchased and the cost is not similar to any other item in the cash shop.... so again, I don't understand what point you are trying to bring up.

    (sorry if I sound passive aggressive, I just don't want my opinion to be misinterpreted)
     
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    I already had spent like 10b on AP resets for my BM and i dont really care if new players get it easier. Actually, i'd be glad if they dont have to spent the same amount that i did and if im gonna 'lose' 1~4b or w/e, it worthd it for my BM's hp.
     
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    That means that you probably washed to 30k hp and even if you save 5b don't think many would think "wow so easy now"

    Didn't know you had a 20k+ BM

    I have used around 450 ap resets and I got 11k hp.

    I think hp washing is a luxury and not something that should be made even easier, it should take a lot of effort. Especially now with mp washing it's so easy getting high hp.
     
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    1,500 resets don't have to be only for one character.
    A lot of people wash multiple characters.
     
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    8.5k, actually :D and 300 saved ap resets for the time when i decide to train again ^_^'.

    P.S. And no, i already used like ~300 ap resets (A lot bought for 11m because yes, i had the money... But i wish i had waited for 9m offers :'() and that's what i got, ~8.5k (can't check at te moment since im banned~f8). 18~20 hp per wash isn't a big deal ._.
    Also washed a bit of mp on my Bish :oops:
     
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    So people are upset with a new playing spending 5b less on 1.5k ap resets? Who has even bought 1.5k ap resets? Maybe 5 people on this server? Why on earth would you care about devaluing AP resets when you have already bought or used them. FYI it isn't even anywhere near neccessary for you to use 1500 ap resets. You are doing that STRICTLY because you feel like it.

    Thats like saying "Woah woah you can't do another red envelope ticket event. That will lower white scrolls and chaos scrolls from 370m to like 310m. Thats totally unfair to anyone who has bought a white or chaos scroll in the last month dude."

    How much entitlement does this server have?
     
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    The new player advantage isn't an appropriate argument imo because the meao price of resets is already fluid. The 120 resets I used on my first character were only 4m each - I couldn't buy 50 resets for the ame total cost today.

    That said, washing doesnt need to be any easier. More people need to realize that its absolutely 100% a luxury, not an investment you need to make. Price doesnt matter on luxury items like that.
     
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    There is no reason for staff to support HP washing since as said already it's a luxury item used for 1 purpose.

    Why would you care about the extra weapon attack with the fix of godly system? you don't have a perfect weapon.
    Why would you care about hp washing? you don't hp wash

    Just cause you have no reason for it, who are you to say peoples reason for playing or how they play is wrong?
    If someone wanna fucking hp wash a Bishop to 30k hp then you stfu and let them.
    (I actually hope someone does it)
     
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    1. I have a clean perfect weapon and will hopefully have two soon

    2. I am hp washing my hero to 30k by level 140-150 that is already in works.

    3. I never said it was wrong you literally made that up lol. I said it was never necessary under any circumstances the only reason to wash to 30k clean is for your own enjoyment
     
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    I don't think it needs to be made any easier to HP wash. The challenge is partially what makes it fun to achieve high HP. I don't think past players washing achievements should be watered down.
     
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    It's not needed to HP wash at all, so any hp washing is for your own enjoyment.

    Getting a perfect weapon after the fix then complaining no one should get compensated is not the same.

    You are comparing events with making things easier for no reason,
    then you tell people their opinion don't matter.
    An NX event and making changes to AP resets it's a big difference.
     
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    Before this post 500m says 3 people respond to it flaming and mad as usual to a differing opinion

    That doesn not mean I am saying it is WRONG to do that. You are literally making things up pls stop.

    I have never told anyone their opinion does not matter. I have definitely said I think their opinion is wrong or bad. FYI you LITERALLY just told me my opinion didn't matter above

    "Why would you care about the extra weapon attack with the fix of godly system? you don't have a perfect weapon.
    Why would you care about hp washing? you don't hp wash"

    An NX event and making changes to ap resets is not different.

    Everything you do in this game is your decision. An NX event and adding a reset bundle are the exact same thing if you are talking about whether or not it is "fair". Just changes. One is temporary (red envelopes) while the other may or may not be (ap reset bundles).


    It's unfair veterans got red christmas socks and new players dont. Its unfair that the +5 godly system was added. It's unfair if you add ap reset bundles. It's unfair blah blah blah.

    It's sad coming to this community and seeing people like you respond to posts like mine with nothing but whining and hypocrisy. You can make an argument that any changes made to this game EVER are unfair to one group of people or another.
     
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    Well this is getting off topic..

    I think bundling AP resets would be a nice idea.. I'd like this for SP resets too now that I think about it.
     
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