Forum Over moderation and annoyance to the community

that's not what I said you snake, I gave you my opinion once you insisted

im literally not part of this show but goddamn you are bad at your job

 

The fact that you liked a comment personally attacking the person who opened this thread,
Then you can't stop chasing Donnie's threads (Ban appeal, Abuse report about you),
Then "proving" that you are right with multiple comments in this thread, liking everything that fits your narrative,
Then continuing to make this post a "shit" post with most of your comments is not addressing the issue,
This is the definition of a power trip.

Personally, I think that this issue went way too far, the fact that other staff went ahead and reverted the ban decision speaks volumes.
Overall I think you do a great job, and moderation should be issued if the topic of the thread is not being addressed, which wasn't the case in the comment that created all of this mess.

 

haha, no es que yo sea el adalid de la "latinoamericanidad" o algo por el estilo, pero aun asi me sorprende ver esta bandera involucrada en opiniones de estos temas. de nuevo no suelo ni decir "gringos" ni "nosotros los latinos" mucho, pero este es el tipo de dramas que pense q a los latinos, especialmete a los peruanos es de los que hace decir "los gringos y sus huevadas", haha solo quería mencionarlo, en lo personal todo el tema me parece bastante idiota, y aqui un grupo de gente tratando de argumentar, que si, parecen opiniones inteligentes, pero con un tema tan estúpido como este es fácil hacer eso, bueno tal vez tengas algo contra Dave, eso tambien lo entenderia (no lo comparto ya que no tengo ningun sentimiento hacia el ni bueno ni malo) repito me sorprende una opinion de un peruano que no sea "que bola de cojudos csm" respecto a todo esto(empezando con el/la que empezo el thread, que es un/una cojudo/a de matricula XD)

 

I think it's outlined in the very first post, and I also think you've purposely allowed the thread to deviate from the original post so you're going to end up locking it or having to mass delete

 

Liking comments means you agree with what is being said, what is being said is a personal attack that has nothing to do with the game.

You reverted the comments after a few hours when other staff were involved, and if they weren't involved then you just decided to remove the comments without a reason in the first place.

Is saying that another player is not comparable to another (in-game) worse than personally attacking Donnie?
Did Donnie write anything personal about Sparky's gender, allegedly a relationship, lies about inheriting stuff, and stuff that can't be proven?

All Donnie wrote is that the 2 players (sparky and awlz) that another player mentioned are not comparable in-game.
When one of them retired and the other continued inventing new ways to play DK which most DK players follow today I don't see how this is controversial enough to warrant all this mess.

 

mucho tiempo viviendo en estados unidos sin poder comer un buen ceviche u.u

 

What would help is you getting out of a thread talking about you and general staff behavior, every third comment in this post is written by you.

So if other staff members weren't in the conversation, why did you remove the comments in the first place? no reason was provided. (even though Donnie had to write abuse + ban appeal about that)

Let's assume that Donnie's comment has been a bit out of line, but you decided that this comment is good enough to stay after review from... yourself?

Let's review your actions,
you see a comment you don't like/think will instigate "flame war" " you remove it, and Donnie writes another comment, you Ban her from the thread
Then Donnie opens the abuse report, you close it and say she should write a ban appeal, and then you respond to said ban appeal.
Donnie says that she wants another person who didn't ban her to respond to the appeal, then you decide that the comment was ok and restore it and unban Donnie.

So you went over all that over a comment that you approved of in the end, meaning it didn't go over the forum guidelines, because if it was, you would keep the ban.

Does it make sense?

 

I kind of see where both sides are coming from. But, forum moderation is simply impossible to do in a way that will keep everybody happy or that is even objectively fair. Questioning the judgement of moderators who have to make really difficult judgement calls just makes them feel unappreciated.

Given how much good Dave does overall, and how minor this incident really was (no bans or even WP), I think you should all just get over yourselves and be grateful we have him here. Don't scare him away by being so god damn petty.

Also, this shit is such a waste of other staff members time. Let them deal with the backlog of ban appeals and abuse reports, and not petty whinging about the forum moderators judgement calls.

 

I more than agree, that feedback is about the staff, let the community criticize them if it's being respectful, and staff can lock and respond once this thread is over.
This mess is overblown, and I think one incident or even multiple doesn't make the mod bad, just needs to learn from it for the next time he has a comment he doesn't like.

 

I don't know if I have to quote the thread back to you, but it's relevant because people are using higher level individuals as examples in order to create skill feedback.

The post moves on to defend the current implementation of Berserk due to its high skill ceiling which sets it apart from autopot/one button gameplay. Rather than "flaming," it highlights the difference of two playstyles, saying that the proposed Berserk change would take away that identity.

To threaten, edit, and ban over that, meanwhile allowing definitively worse posts and personal attacks to persist in this very thread is questionable. "I'm being ironic," is not a way to lead.

 

Well, you should have understood that feedback about you doesn't require you, what it did is make this post not feedback, more like a shit post.

So you did consult with the staff about removing it but not about restoring it? even though you made Donnie go all over those hurdles that changed nothing?

If you didn't think the comment was good enough to stay, you would either remove it because it broke the rules, maybe talk with the player to change the first paragraph, and you would never restore it.

If the real reason was being afraid of a flame war, and you don't think Donnie's comment was a flame, then you should not have removed it until it was an actual flame, which breaks the forum rules.

Overall, I think you know that you had an incident with this mess, and I get that it happens, my point is just to get better for next time, and just follow the forum rules as they are, and if needed then change them.

 

I'm sure that Dave will at least take this into account in future too anyway. Realistically, he can't be going around making promises or apologizing for everything, because then other people will just whinge, and he will just be taken less and less seriously. He's also not being a power tripper by making decisions some people will inevitably disagree with (this claim is just absurd).

I hope you guys can just stop before this has a really sad ending. Otherwise, you're extremely selfish and not taking into account what is good for the community as a whole. If Dave resigns, that's a huge loss.