Altough Toad has some good drops, gives a huge amount of exp and the droprate of Toad Headband has been increased to 100%, it seems like this is still dead content. The reasons for this I can think of are: 1. You have to walk up the way to Toad through the maze, which is time consuming, especially if you have mules. 2. If the case occurs, that you manage to form a trio Toad party after like 20 smegas, there are mostly at least 2 of 3 party members who want to join for Toad Headband. Since „only“ 1 drops, one of the party members will drop out and the journey of creating a Toad party starts again. I know, you can just walk a BS and door, like people do for Zakum, but as I said, it is super hard to even find anyone for this boss, unlike Zakum, and almost impossible to find people with a BS or SE mule for example. If this NPC Would be moved to the map Outside Ninja Castle you would not have to walk the whole maze up to the jumpquest map. I can not think of a scenario, how moving the NPC Sai would hurt the economoy/gameplay. In my opinion it will help to revive this content. Also you need to do the prequest and will still have to pay the 3m, to skip the jumpquest, so players won`t profit in anything but time. This might be too much to ask for, but I will just bring it up: Another or an additional way to make this boss more attractive and to solve the problem I described under point 2. would be to let Toad drop 2 Toad Headbands instead of 1. So it would be possible to create trio runs since there is a drop for everyone to make the splitting fair. A different possibility with the same result would be to cut Toads HP and Exp by 50%, but allow people to run it twice a day. So people can take turns looting the Headband, and the third party member grabs NX, just like people do in Krex.
I can't just leave a like, couldn't agree more ~ +1! 16k dmg ~ not everyone can run it high pots consumption - attack potions and pe (on mules too) time consuming to get to the jump quest. sometimes you find someone who is down to help you without taking band but they do not have prequest done so they have to do the jump quest, which is more time consumption ( low popularity is to blame, low pupolarity is a result of no interest due to lack of proper reward) to be spending a reasonable amount of time and resonable amount of resources you would like atleast 2 people where 3 people is most viable. too hard to find 3 players to do it together because everyone usaully want the same thing and only 1 drops. Considering the above, your suggestion of increasing it to 2 headbands dropped per run, in my opinion, would be justified. One more solution to make the pupolarity of toad go up is to give it a chance to drop something that is worth more then 5knx, for example anything thats worth 100-200m or so (can be any value that will make this boss worthwhile), that way one gets band and the other gets 5knx + chance to profit, or even share profits, that's up to the players.
As a daily 2 LUK Toadband enjoyer myself I have to agree, toad is very dead content nowadays after the release of LHC and other more viable/rewarding exp contents... Last time I remember seeing a respectable amount of traffic for Toad was before LHC was a thing, and even then it was your last boss of the day to do if you've completely run out of content (HTs, Shao, Auf, Krexes) and want that extra push of EXP. In 2024 its more like 4 out of every 5 Toad runners want to loot band, therefore alot of people end up soloing it and spending 1 hour~ to kill toad just cause they can't consistently find willing runners (I personally know at least 3-4 people that do this). Therefore I'm in favor, make toad drop 2 toadbands to stop this boring solo meta, or find another way to revive this content so that its no longer 90% of the runners being Lv.200 Shads/NLs fist fighting over toadband.
@Doo fought for months for 100% drop rate on Toad, this shit used to be I think 75% drop rate. So I think it’s asking for a lot for a 200% drop rate on band. Toad EXP is so dead because it got power crept by NT and LHC. Its a pot drain for less rewards than the first two. As a Stinklord and Tier SSS-hadower hater, I feel like the issue its impossible to recruit non-band looters outside of a few weirdos running it for exp (like me). Why not make the other rewards better? There’s no monetary reasons to run Toad, you’re better off running an additional RG chara or running Neo Tokyo (Fragment farming), so I would rather look at giving it something fun, similar to how they added BWG to The Boss. If Toad had a BWG drop over The Boss I would definitely run it over Showa Boss. Toad reqs are easy, there are none. As a 2016 player I made a lvl 41 HB mule just for toad, but as you said, pot usage is insane. Showa Boss however, ideally wants 3 BS with max HSH to run, which is a lot harder and a bucc to pin bg b. Tldr opinions: Make profit rewards better, not 2 bands Boss is still much easier to run/recruit than The Boss imo The Boss has better rewards for non-band looters (BWG+Shogun), would be cool to see a niche end game drop from Toad, my personal wish: Taru Totem “But Toad already has unique drops,” its impossible for me to sell Eye str/luk/dex/int 30s for what they’re listed as on price thread. There’s no real market for this. Eye CSers use 60/70s, end game safety zone uses 10%+ws, there is no use for 30s
Thanks for your feedback! Update 92 has some improvements for the discussed bosses. Castellan: Added additional Ninja Toad Headband to drops. Added additional 5000 NX to drops. Added Sky Ski to drops. Replaced Elemental Staff 1-4 drops with Elemental Staff 5-8 The Boss: Increased droprate of Brown Work Gloves Added additional 5000 NX to drops.
