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u think ur maplestory lawyer or something son? get a life

 

וואלה אחי אם הייתי אתה, בשלב הזה הייתי כבר מתנצל על מה שעשיתי ומודה בטעות שלי.
זה לא שווה את זה שכל כך הרבה אנשים לא ירצו לשחק איתך רק בגלל דברים כאלו, מסוס זה לא הכל בשרת הזה וזה לא שווה לשחק לבד בשביל עוד איזה 600 מיליון בכיס.
זאת העצה שלי אליך.

To make sure everybody understand this comment, this is what I wrote in hebrew, just figured he might understand better in his own native language:
If I were you, at this point I would already apologize for what I did and admit my mistake.
It's not worth it that so many people won't want to play with you just because of things like this, Mesos isn't everything on this server and it's not worth playing alone for another 600 million in your pocket.
That's my advice to you.

 

אני מעדיף לשחק לבד מאשר לשחק עם שחקנים שמשקרים גונבים מרמים ואז מאשימים אותך. לא חסר לי כסף במשחק שאני צריך לגנוב את העין של הזקום או כובע זקום אף פעם לא היה לי ג'נסיס ואף פעם לא גנבתי NX.
הם משקרים כדי לגרום לחשבון שלי לקבל חסימה ואני לא אשתף עם זה פעולה.

 

חבל.
אין לאף אחד פה אינטרס לדפוק אותך, במיוחד כשמדובר בהרבה אנשים שונים שאומרים דברים זהים.
בהצלחה עם זה ידידי.

Translation to what he said:
I'd rather play alone than play with players who lie steal cheat and then blame you. I'm not short of money in the game I have to steal the zakum's eye or zakum hat I've never had a Genesis and I've never stolen an NX. They are lying to get my account blocked and I will not cooperate with that.

Translation to my reply:
Too bad.
No one here has an interest in screwing you over, especially when it comes to many different people saying the same things.
Good luck with that.

 

this community is small so ppl will know about you and ppl will not invite you to runs cause of the things you are doing so let that sink in to the that little peanut brain you have.. good luck to you

 

Leecher: warkingz
Place: Ulu 1
Price/hour: 120m (40m per hour)
Level: 90
EXP Amount: 21,576,603
Mesos/Exp: 5.56 mesos per 1 experience
Time (amount): 3 hours
Partner (Y/N): No.
Notes: Not great.

That was my experience a few months ago with this guy warkingz. I do not recommend spend your mesos to see a leecher afk for 10-20% of the time of the service without asking pause/break. Considering that, for me, personally, not great/bad is above 5 mesos per 1 experience.

 

I would like to include here other 3 different experiences that I had:

Leecher: icebberg
Place: Harps
Price/hour: 60m
Level: 82
Exp Amount: 7,427,918
Mesos/Exp: 8.08 mesos per 1 experience
Time (amount): 1 hour
Partner (Y/N): No.
Notes: Not great.

Leecher: HydraClaw
Place: Harps
Price/hour: 80m
Level: 84
Exp Amount: 6,816,139
Mesos/Exp: 11.74 mesos per 1 experience
Time (amount): 1 hour
Partner (Y/N): No.
Notes: Not great.

Leecher: Albania
Place: Harps
Price/hour: 50m
Level: 86
Exp Amount: 5,669,418
Mesos/Exp: 8.82 mesos per 1 experience
Time (amount): 1 hour
Partner (Y/N): No.
Notes: Not great.

I have information of the same map with different leechers at highly better rates/exp-ratio. I am keeping those names away from the Blacklist zone tho.

 

I would be very interested in seeing your data. I'd say 80m tends to be a fair price for solo harp leech (40m for split), and doing the math, at least from the data I could find. Assuming a lv 130 seller and 78 buyer.
- Harps have a base exp of 2720/kill (= 816 buyer exp/kill)
- Blood harps have a base exp of 3520/kill (= 1056 buyer exp/kill)
- Sky Nest 2 has 15 blood harps and 8 harps (according to Legends at least, since we don't have that info public on royals. Still, seems about accurate)
- One mob wave spawns every 7.5 seconds (might actually be 8, I'm feeling generous)

This means the maximum theoretically possible EXP in one hour is ~10.73m, which would put them just a bit below 8 meso/exp, and would get a lv 78 buyer almost to lv82, unless some of my base numbers are wrong - if you have data proving above this is possible I'll revisit it.

To reach 5 meso/exp (which you said for uwu1, but IDK what your harps threshold is - it should be higher but you didn't mention what it is), you'd need to hit ~16m exp in one hour, which would be enough to get all the way from 78 to lv 83, 66%. I have never heard of anyone getting this much.

So as far as I can tell, the only way for solo leech to be considered anything above "not great/bad" for you is for them to charge significantly below 80m/hr.

Edit: As for the uwu1, 40m/hr solo is very cheap but also it took them 3 hours to get you from 90->94 solo, and considering ulu is one of the fastest leech spots that does seem quite bad to me.

 

Ahh come on this is not blacklist worthy, posting people here for in your opinion 'low rate exp/meso'

PEople might really do their best and then you decide that bevause you find it bad exp/meso value that the need to be on a blacklist.

if you belive it is low exp/meso value dont buy anymore from the seller

Iy is a different situation if they leave early or AFK everytime.

 

I did not upload those players to the "blacklist", but as a matter of clarification on what I got from my experiences with them. I accept your mathematics @Sylafia and as you said above, I did not mention "5 mesos per exp/harps", but in general the discrepancy of exp from one to another is quite huge. According to my data, I assume a condition of fairness since I am willing to pay full amount before hand, without knowing what the rates will be, that is how I give a base rank as "bad/not great" to those Leechers. I do not like to do diligence for Leeching Service, I might consider it for the future, since it will give me better ratio/exp and less confrontation/discussion afterwards.

Finally, what is my purpose here is to let Leechers do their job, but do it better, invest your time on your client and do not claim a high/regular price for it, if you can not do. I would not be against paying less for a "not great" service or at least an answer before my payment is done - again, it is on me to do my diligence even for this kinda of regular service, which makes me frustrated that for almost everything in such a small community to be doing - or let me know you are not willing to invest a full hour of your life for mesos and then we can discuss a fair condition for the service or with less impacts on me.

I am not willing to bring the discussion further, there are plenty of good Leechers out there, unless I am dumb enough to spend mesos on lower ratio services, I might give less opportunity for others not-wellknown Leechers from now on. I like to help, not to get ripped off.

 

I am not here to bring those guys to the blacklist, I think I wrote it in the wrong place. I did so, because I saw one IGN that I recognized and it is doing the same thing that did to me, which I feel it is unfair to do not let others know about it. For the others, I can remove or move to another area, but will be willing to share my experiences for others to have in mind and do not give their mesos away if there are better services.

 

I think you should make a separate thread on leechers and their rate/performance, the data would be valuable for the community

 

Blacklist for IGN: Starx

Reason: The reason is that he stole an apple from a fellow member of my guild, and not only that, but I see that he also trolled a team, he only made 2/4 runs in apq and got out, during his 2 runs I saw that he was afk according to the smega, I will note it in my blacklist, I leave the thread for you.

 

Also FYI StarMilk is NOT the same as Starx... that screenshot kinda makes it look like you're talking about me T_T

 

Oh yeaaa true sorry haha but not StarMilk NOT is ahaha

 

I did a 2 hr split skele leech with Mathias21. It’s my first time buying leech and did not do epm10. Paid 140m for 2 hours but only 40m exp total, which is similar to ulu2. Seller level 168, partner 117, me 111. I don’t really know how to argue that exp is really bad. I will take it as a lesson and don’t recommend buying leech from him.

 

there is a pretty big lv difference..

as someone who bought leech from Mathias21 a lot of times (over 5 times) I can say I'm always satisfied.

 

I guess it's a good opportunity to advertise RARA'S SKELE LEECHING

 

IGN: keogoinup
Reason: Scam Leech
Details: He used a smega saying He was selling Leech for 140m, I used tp rock to get to him and he traded me saying he wanted 150.

After I called him out he kept repeating "Stop wasting my time" And whispering me that I was in the wrong.

 

i mean.. was he rude? yes.
could this be just a typo in smega? Also yes.
Is losing 3m for a vip tp rock worth mentioning someone in the black list? personally id say no.