Kenny's apology

Discussion in 'Introductions and Farewells' started by Kenny, Aug 19, 2024.

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    You know shit ain't right when Josh did what he did. And now this.

    Funny enough, I don't think this will be the last one either.

    also fuck you jae
     
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    nah this is straight up bs apology
    yall be catching rwt left and right yet commit rwt yourself

    i put my bet that 9 out of 10 people applied for GM position just to rwt or abuse in some ways
    this isn't even the first 10 cases that has happened here

    not even surprised if most of the team are involved in it
     
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    I think payings someone Rent which is not developing for this Server is crazy.

    But lets be honest Kenny you done a dick move and you trying to get more Drama with your "apology".
    You could have raised the topic normally.

    Thank you for your effort and time and stop beeing manipulative.
     
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    It is unknown simping from the donors side Jae. It’s allegedly the rp money that paid for that rent, instead of Matt’s own money. I don’t know about you, but the thought of being someone’s paypig do not excite me to say the least. If anything, it makes me genuinely angry like NOTHING ELSE and BETRAYED.

    I am glad I didn’t spent a penny on a server that tells me that ALL donors money goes DIRECTLY into improving the server, improving the community experience and our QOL yet does this kind of shit behind our backs while everything goes down the toilet, it makes no sense. Besides, I’m gonna call out simping and low iq degenerate behavior all day no matter who it is or what price do I have to pay. Simps don’t deserve any respect at all, especially lying backstabbing simps and “nice guys” with their motives (in the end of the day it is these kind of people nature, so I’m not surprised at the end result).

    If someone wants to be a simp or a paypig, it’s their choice and they should do it from their own pocket, not the donations money which clearly states it will go to actually important things instead of satisfying someone’s ego and paying someone’s rent. It is beyond disgusting, it is the worst thing I ever encountered on Royals, even the most infamous cases dwarf in comparison to this degeneracy that harms us all more than anyone. I mean, if the server was in 10/10 condition I personally wouldn’t mind THAT much for that case (it’s still disgusting though), but doing so with all the issues and facts we know is the WORST thing a human being can EVER do. If someone says X and does Y, this person cannot ever be trusted and he is genuinely an EVIL person.

    TL DR- Eng said it best. I will trust someone real like Kenny any day of the week over someone that has a facade of a “good trustworthy person” yet does these horrific things behind our back and is LYING to us all. I don’t justify what he did, but I know where he is coming from. It’s disgusting what they are doing with rp money.

    *edit* inb4 ban
     
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    That would be fine if you had a personal tip jar and people donated to it for you to do whatever..
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    ..but when you make a statement like this, one would you kiiiinda sorta expect the donations to go 100% into server costs and development. Not to pay for your food, beer or rent, or someone else's for that matter. Personal expenses are not server expenses. You'd be paying for that stuff even if the server got nuked.

    Now, I'm not saying it happened, but hell I've seen shadier sites be completely transparent about their monthly domain and server costs and donation gains. It's impossible for me to verify his, or yours, or any admin's claims to be true, but it sure raises questions when all the numbers are kept a secret but someone finally opens up. Then again, this very thread was made by the fool blinded by money.
     
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    I love how people here are whining about "what the owner should do with the profit they got from donations." This is a PRIVATE server—hosting one means I’m personally taking the biggest risk here to maintain a nostalgic playground for everyone. It doesn't matter where the money goes; I could spend it on my hobbies, my family, my partner, or even Only Fans if I see fit. If you guys really want to complain about this, go play on an official server like Nexon’s, where they even get reported for staff abuse and harassment in term of salary despite their official standing.

    I’m not siding with the MapleRoyals owner or anything, but this is a private server, and it’s funny how people are whining, "I’d rather my $$$ go to someone else instead." I respect all the current staff here, and I don’t mean to be rude. But Kenny just did it "the hard way"—instead of approaching the topic with a changed mindset, or just staying quiet rather than making excuses like "too bad I got caught" or whatever. Lmao.

    This isn't an apology, this is a rant, and I hope and wish you would do better irl Kenny. We are all not perfect, and we need to accept that, not "I'm not perfect because of someone else"
     
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    I personally hope Matt and the rest of the staff can make as much money as they can from Royals. I geniunely believe all the money goes to running of the server, but even if it didn't, I don't care, even more, I'm happy for you for being able to make money, you deserve it.

    I'm just happy to play the game I love

    I don't understand how a lot of people don't think the same. why do you care so much? Just shutup, play and enjoy. Thanks.
     
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    This!
    As long as the money required to run the server is covered properly with donations, any extra money can and in my opinion should be used by them how they see fit, the amount of money they are allegedly taking is nothing compared to the amount of time, effort, enrgy they put in on a regular basis, not to even speak of all the accumulated investment that was made throughout the years.
    Furthermore, it is kind of absurd to me how easily people believe everything they told, even leaving aside the source is literally curropt, is it really that easy to feed y'll with bs and you'll believe it?

    A more important note, some of the people commenting here in a super negative fasion towards the server as a whole, not even towards kenny, and to say I do not agree with this atittude would be an understatement, if you do not believe in the server you can just walk and leave, but adding salt to injury by being negative and discouraging is not the way to move forwards.
    Like in any relationship in life, you can not change the other side, you can expect sactifices and understanding, exactly like we expect Staff to make efforts and to make the server better, but to expect them to change based on your view, is not accepting reality as it is, instead we should appreciate what we get from the other side of this relationship, and if we try and still can't appreciate it anymore and if it does not do us good, it is hard but necessary to cut it off our life.
    As for myself I do see the flaws in royals, in staff management, but I understand how hard it is, and I can also clearly see the amount of efforts they are putting in, I can see changes coming through, the community is being listened to, the delay, the time it takes, is all understandable considering the resources they have, if this was a case where no effort was shown, and no good will for improvements, I would feel differently, but this is very clearly not the case.

    As to Kenny, I do believe that you have regret within you, but it is very clear in this apolegy that you do not really mean it, truly being sorry does not come with blaming your mistake on other sources, own up to it fully, it is you that made the mistake regardless of circumstances.
     
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    Well, in the end, it is easier making these kinds of stupid decisions online then in real life. No one has died and yet the commnity is acting as if someone did.

    Yes, this was a poor decision by Kenny. But I simply do not belive that he's a bad person in general and it amazes me that so many in this topic and the other announcement topic is taking this personal. In the end, the people who actually suffered for it is the staff responsible for the clean up.

    I feel that the topic announcing Kennys wrong doings, shouldn't have been posted as it kind of forced Kennys hand into giving some kind of explaination for his actions. It would of been better not letting the community know the full details of the firing and thus reducing all the flame which we can clearly see in so many of the replies.
     
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    I'm not great with words, but I just want to chime in and say that it seems like everyone here is getting way too caught up in gossip.
    The tone of the comments has gone beyond jokes and now feels like it's crossing into personal attacks.
    *Well, now most of the hateful comments and some over-the-line ones have been deleted by Dave tho. ~f12
    Regardless of the truth, it's clear to see who harbors negative feelings toward someone and who is close to whom.

    I'm neither on the staff's side nor the players' side. If I had to choose, I believed that Kenny was a trustworthy GM, and I was genuinely grateful for his suggestion to consider applying for a GM position, as I felt it was a positive evaluation of me.
    and as a player, I’m hoping for a more reliable and improved service for the players.

    but the only clear facts we have here are that Kenny broke the server rules and got banned, and that there's been the usual distrust among the staff, as always.
    Everything else, whether it's what Kenny or people claims are just speculation and haven't been proven.
    At this point, it's hard to tell if this thread is about Kenny's apology or if it's turning into an invasion of Becca and Matt's privacy.

    The truth is, we know nothing. We don't know if Matt's only income is from donations, whether he has another job, if he’s really paying her rent, or where that money would even come from if he is. It's all just assumptions.
    As a regular player, I only know they're in a relationship, and whatever they do in that relationship whether Matt is paying her rent or the other way around is entirely their private business.

    All criticism can wait until something is actually revealed.

    As always, we came to the Nostalgia server to relive memories, but we are adults. Let’s try to act like it.

    However, if they have truly sworn that the donations will never be used for anything else, then, since this topic has come up, I hope they can be transparent about how they’ve been using the donations so far and how they plan to use them going forward.
     
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    What Matt does with the money shouldn't really incite this much discussion.

    It's a private server, get over it. Whether or not it goes to a "source" you're not happy with doesn't matter. Especially if it's speculation.

    The server has more or less been stable for a while (with very short lapses of service) aside from this most recent DDOS attack. (I'm not saying that everything is perfectly optimized and things can ALWAYS be better. i.e. improve RG etc drop rates)

    It's mushroom game. Go have fun. Get mad at bad CS results. Gach a WS or something. (once servers are stable again :pengun:)

    The whole Kenny thing sucks. It's a net negative for everyone. The previous GM debacles suck. It's a net negative for everyone.

    It's a tale as old as time. People being people and doing people things.

    Go hit some mushrooms and stumps.
     
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    Just to be clear, he does have a regular job
    And so do I + other Staff

    It's extremely dangerous to rely on a private server as the main income, the "earnings" won't be stable since the funds are by donation (determined by the active players base)
     
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    I never claimed it was true nor that I believed it to be true. Please read the post again.

    "Deserving" compensation has nothing to do with it. That is a completely separate matter.
    If you run a server as a hobby and ask people to just cover the immediate costs of running it, that's fine.
    If you run a server and feel you deserve some money out of it and honestly tell people donations go towards server costs and compensating the people behind the scenes, you know what? That's also fine.
    If you run a server and ask people to just cover the costs of running the server, but pocket the money or use it for something else than you claimed it would be used for, that's deceptive. Also known as a dick move.

    All I'm saying more transparency would be better. What and how much are the server costs? How much over or under it are the donations? What exactly are they used for? Obviously there's the fear of big N to prevent everything from being public, but that doesn't mean the community deserves nothing.

    And again, I'm not saying any of the "personal use of server donation money" allegations are even true, nor that I strictly believe in them, just that people pointing fingers at supposed liars based solely on who they personally believe to be the "good guy" is a disservice in itself. Hearing they are false from Matt's mouth would at least provide a more fair "word against word" situation, instead of completely unrelated people trying to cover Kenny's or Pure's or Matt's or whoever's ass and leaving the truth to rot unanswered.
     
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    Maybe this is a hot-take but it's a private server. You're here to have fun and enjoy the nostalgia/hang out with friends or min-max or whatever floats your boat.

    I think the vast majority of people "donate" to make their character look cool. Rather than donate specifically for the cause of upholding the integrity of the server.

    In the least offensive way I can say it. It's a private server. You aren't really owed anything by the people who run it. You didn't have to pay to be here like a subscription based MMO such as WoW. Not saying it's not a dick move if they were being deceptive. But again. That kind of comes with the territory of Private Servers.

    (For the record, i'm on no-one's side. Just a weary traveler)
     
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    It is the person making the claim that has to provide evidence. Kenny posted a claim without evidence, and yet other people believe it.

    Not reasonable to expect Matt (or anybody else) to respond to every ridiculous rumor and misinformation that goes around.
     
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