Community Blacklist

The look on my face when I realized the person saying that is in charge of the blacklist. :/
Makes me not really take this list seriously.

 

I also agree that it is about principle and pepe is definitely in the wrong here #IStandWithBriefing

 

I know this list is not serious when they blacklisted a guy because another guy uploaded a random screenshot

 

I tried taking this into private but instantly brought it back here with photos...

he didnt ping me on discord, he made a mistake with the user. Also i do not need to take responsibility on behalf of 6 random people (i didnt host that pt). There was a mistake he left and didnt get paid, i was not the party host, i only bought the genesis. putting all the blame on me is unacceptable and i am not willing to pay above 6.6m I did not neglect him if this is what you think. he just picture it that way to look like im been denying to pay I told him to chat me on royals if he wants 6.6m but he denies. Good luck to desist in his future runs, hope he will pay more attention and dont act like people purposely dont pay him

 

Bruh literally stop lying and just pay him his money and move on

 

Literally lying to yourself right here man, pls make it make sense

 

Who are you? You act like you were there. Go and side with your friend desist and leave me and the rest of the forum alone. We have other things in life and this is literally non-sense.

Please ask Desist to talk to the party leader who hosted the run and leave me alone.

 

give me 10 likes I'll create an "our" community blacklist and add this guy on the first entry

 

Yeah yeah..
Skelt recruited me in CH1 FM, you guys needed a bishop SPECIFICALLY so let’s also rule out if I was a mule or not, that is irrelevant, the party knew I came solo

You keep changing up your story as cadena said originally, you said you sold the book for 215m >> then said you sold it for 200m >> then said you bought it instead at 200m

You still keep bringing up 6.6m, it was never my issue to begin with, why do I have to go up to each party member individually and collect that rather than my full split? It sounds like more of a you problem not mine

& yes you purposefully did not pay me, it took you a whole week to finally now also claim that it was the wrong discord account

edit: its already done, keep ur 33m & stop talking out ur ass

 

daaamn, gg.

scammers are gonna lie :/

 

So, reading through it all again now that things slowed down. Firstly, my "shut it" comments and meme was aimed at both parties as it was getting out of control. Please try to keep reports as one post if possible. If it came across as unprofessional in the moment, my apologies.

Secondly, I think what happened is that Pepe most likely bought the book because the party wanted splits for it right away. If he didn't pay briefing because he genuinely thought he was a mule or something, I'm not sure. He probably at least paid everyone else. If so, it would make sense that each member would pay some mesos to briefing each. However, if Pepe messed up here for whatever reason, then he should simply pay briefing and then look up the other party members himself. It's not briefing's fault if neither Pepe or the party tried to reach out to him.

If the party leader is at fault, then the responsibility should be on him. All the party leader seem to have said (according to comments posted about this situation) is "idk". What does that mean in this context? "idk about splits". He don't know if anyone got paid at all? Or what? Shouldn't he have been paid too, and if so, could tell us how much Pepe paid him? Could he also not tell us how it was split? Was the book sold to Pepe right away or not?
Pepe's responses are a bit inconsistent, sure. I don't think the party leader will give us further comments to help clear this out though.

And briefing may not either, because it turns out, he hasn't been honest himself. He shouldn't have been at zak to begin with, because he's apparently a ban evader . If you check out his responses, you will now see dismal1337 instead, and he was perma banned years ago. Oopsie daisy.

So I guess Pepe don't have to pay anything to briefing after all.
And with that said, avoid bossing with Pepe if you don't trust him. If things happen again, feel free to make other reports.

 

Thank you for your un-biased review Shiratsuyu. Exactly like you said - The party wanted splits right away, the host asked if someone can sell it, I said I can buy it for 200m, they were very eager to get their split because its fast payout.
Also, for me , paying 200m is paying 200m, I didn't care if I need to split the payment between 5 or 6 trades, I only followed instructions. So him saying its all my fault is wrong, where have he been when we all went to FM? we said gene20 dropped the moment someone looted it, it was never a secret. Him demanding 33m from me is unjustified.

Ironic, isnt it?

 

I recognize that I’m putting myself in the crosshairs of the admin team for responding to this, but this is wrong. It’s just so wrong.

This blacklist thread was solely created by and for community to discuss matters outside the scope of the admin realm. Your response supported that, but in the same breath also telling people how they should feel about the topic? Defending Pepe despite seeing that he’s clearly refused to communicate or allocate splits? Your team has clearly taken a stance on this even as the neutral overseers you say you are. It’s extremely hypocritical.

Lastly, I don't know if brief was a ban-evader or not, but I am sure that there wasn’t any reason to investigate him. I won’t be engaging in this thread any longer. It’s not a safe space for the community, it’s a place for admins to cherry-pick their next target.

and before you say anything about me being his friend— yes, I am his friend. But I also know he’s been squeaky clean since he started during 11th anni. He’s logged hundreds of hours in Royals without getting into any drama up to this point. This entire ordeal baffles me. There are much bigger fish to fry that are actively, currently harming our community via RWT, vote-abuse, and cheating.

 

it’s fitting that your entire response wasn’t to address a community member’s concerns but rather attempt to discredit words I’ve said.

I pointed out that he’s my friend because you eventually would. “Clear bias” is apparent when one action is shown in conjunction with a wholly opposite reaction. I’m not sure what was illogical about my statement that an investigation on a clean player should not have been made in the first place, and certainly not from this forum thread. Feel free to point out when I’ve ever been hypocritical about this (you can’t).

I implore you to keep your personal bias with me away from this conversation. It has nothing to do with your duty as a moderator and representative of the Royals staff. I will say from a moderation standpoint, our conversations have not been the most welcoming from you, but I welcome any new and meaningful opportunities to flip that narrative.

 

I'll probably catch some flames saying this but - if someone is ban evading, does it really matter how he got investigated?

Pre-Disclaimer - Briefing my guildie from Revival (well, used to be before being discovered) and I still believe that he was rightfully banned (again).

Do you suggest that it's ok to let a ban evader continue playing and that it was wrong to discover that he's been breaking the rules?

I have nothing against him, honestly? he's been a nice guy.

It doesn't change my perspective on the person himself.

I think that seeing your friend getting banned is sad, even annoying, and it's normal to feel frustrated.

BUT - if the said friend is deserving of the ban, why would someone start questioning the staff for doing their job?

IG that's just something that you and some people need to think about.

 

"Engaging at this level of involvement could escalate to in-game or forum harassment and potentially result in a ban, even if you were not directly involved in the loot-splitting argument."

"We leave it to the community to decide how to address and prevent similar misunderstandings in the future."

So limit disagreements to 2 posts or what? The whole point of these grey area cases is to decide precedent going forward. Its not my fault if people harass someone when I presented an opposing view without resorting to personal insults.

EDIT: not that i support saledor, but i dont see this same attitude when ppl are doing what is much closer to harrassment when he gets called out