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  1. DarkWingDuck
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    I believe the person below is my only submission to this blacklist:
    I would like to request his removal from the blacklist. I don't know if he's still playing but I honestly let it go a long time ago. And now that I think about it, it was never really worth putting him on the blacklist in the first place.

    Lately, I've been feeling that the only real "winners" on the Community Blacklist are those who can live their lives without feeling the need to post anything there.

    Maybe if we all let a petty argument go once in a while, our souls would feel less heavy and we could continue putting our time/energy towards peacefully enjoying a mushroom game.

    I don't know... just a thought...
     
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    I don't mean to talk smack but if it bothers you then why tf you still in that discord.. just leave and problem solved.. stop crying about it
     
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    Everyone is so focused on GETO vs FOXY, But are we really going to ignore the real issue here.

    The issue im speaking of is about the individual who set this whole drama in motion, the anonymous person who first posted talking about the "injustice" Geto suffered at the hands/paws of Foxy. (which has been nuked by TIM for breaking the rules)

    This Anonymous person clearly has his own vendetta against foxy, but cleverly hid behind anonymity and intentionally used Geto as a way to attack foxy and have Geto be his scapegoat.

    As you can tell by 5 page worth of back and forth drama this anonymous person has successfully diverted away all attention from himself and is enjoying the drama knowing he got what he wanted out if this. while foxy and geto try to salvage their own situation.

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    Should we include discord or other platform screenshots as evidence?: Personally, I think it's much too hard to moderate legitimacy since it's easy to fake or take out of context (In general, unrelated to any of the recent situations) Just throwing in my two cents on this part of the discussion.

    Personally think should cut a bit on the yap. Provide evidence when reporting. Give evidence when defending or when trying to reinforce your report. Discuss about whether we want to add additions to the blacklist rules or format (As a community). All the evidenceless personal drama should be in private or in other posts.
     
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    Yup, faking a Discord chat screenshot is way too easy. Editing them requires little effort.
     
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    You're right. I don't want to part of a community that lets comments like these slide by (and even entertain them). Or one that incessantly shit talks each other behind the scenes and justifies it because "everyone does it". Not everyone does it. Not everyone on the internet sucks.
     
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    You catch a lot of unnecessary flack for a person who is genuinely all about the grind and gambling. Maybe its time not to be so Friendly to those who don't deserve it.

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    IMO, when it comes to being a judge of character online its simple, just look at the track record of the people being mentioned here. I give benefit of the doubt to those who don't give me a reason to doubt them.

    Foxy pre-GM was someone I already widely respected and always supported. This is simply purely from the way I've seen her interact with people, maintain her shops ALL around the free-market, and hearing conversations about her (always something positive). For someone who is constantly busy, she brought her GPQ char to meet me because her outfit was similar to mine and we had a great interaction. Her behaviour so far has been exemplary to me anyway. People who disagree or who feel otherwise just bring evidence to back your claims, as how it always should be.

    Geto, you got tangled up in some drama awhile ago with some people I know, and you got blacklisted for it. As Royals is such a social game, reputation is everything. I've never heard anything positive about you in any conversation that was brought up (with you being involved) and that concerns me, because I don't even think you know who is actually your friend or not. When multiple sources all converge like this, its highly likely that they're true to an extent. I hope you understand why people will unlikely favour you in ANY situation, simply because of the evidence that lies before us.

    Conversations and such are great tells of a persons character, especially those that don't criticize the action, but ridicule the person and attack them instead. Nobody is perfect and I would assume majority of people talk smack about others from time to time. I personally am guilty of frequently clowning Nan1 and Saledor, not because I have any beef with them as individuals, but because they've just become sort of a meme to my friends and I (great content). Would I ever defame them in game just cause of it? No. Would I ever throw personal insults at them? No. I only find their past actions distasteful, but they are entitled to do whatever they want, just like how I'm entitled to cringe and say "yuck" when I see their characters in the Free Market.

    Ohms can run their guild however they want, and I'm sure they do it well. I don't think its fair that their leadership be criticized for this sort of thing, they have lives outside the game and prioritize that (as they should). I personally don't prefer SEA guilds even though I am from the region simply because of the "type' of people we get in this region. Too much kpkb and rubbish ingrained deep in our culture.

    And please guys, 2025, don't take this game too seriously. Follow the rules and enjoy your nostalgia or you'll be defending yourself for ban evasion again and again and again. Don't get caught in Discord screenshots.
     
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    It has come to my attention that i myself, (FrappeOrMe/MyeyesOnYou) being reported for “suspected price fixing scam”

    First of all to address to that, i would like to clarify this definition of “scam”. In my perspective, scam is cheating/conning and providing details which to someone falls for it and resulting losing a set amount of mesos/items. In which in this scenario clearly the reporter himself did not lose anything. Further more, considering I was providing something he needs, and not selling him a item which is worthless and making him pay above market price than that.

    With his attached convos/screenshots, clearly item was listed up in stall on FrappeOnMe at 1.1b for a 6dex 2str goggles. I pm-ed this guy “wubz” after seeing him mega-ed and offered him 1.2b since people always negotiate and hoping he would purchase from my stall in the event if he owls. And surely he did, after him noting that the cheapest exact same stats is 1.1b (in which the item was also from my store). He negotiated saying he would pay only 900m for it. Seeing that offer, feeling that he is trying to lowball me. Yes, I removed it from my stall and telling this guy it’s sold. I then replied “it’s sold since I/anybody with common sense would be surprised and definitely check it out”.

    Let me get this point straight, I’m not selling him above like what the reporter stated, 1.2b. You can see his attached pictures, which states at some point of time, lowest i could go is 950m. Considering I was super broke at that point of time trying to sell off that goggles. Secondly, the sale didn’t even went through. Him being a buyer, wanted to buy cheap. I, myself being the seller wanted to sell it off. (But not too cheap). In my stand I dont think I’m

    1) trying to scam him
    2) selling him something which is if no value (example a snail shell sold to him at 1b, causing him to lose his assets)
    3) prices as per 900m was quoted by him, me being the seller doesnt have the right to sell or not to sell?
    4) with this report being made, so to say, example if you purchase a crystal ilbi at 200m from cc1-20. The next moment you saw another one selling at 180m at maybe cc2-20? Does that mean that the seller from cc1-20 is scamming?

    Anyway, doesnt matter to me if im being in the blacklist for this. In my stand, i dont think im causing any harm like what this reporter said. What im trying to prove here is just straightforward. And neither did I harass him or whatsoever. If so, why the reporter could provide names of my characters which whispered him, but not the characters/convos of him being harassed after the “suspected price fix scam”?

    This brings me to a conclusion,
    Is this guy cyberbullying? Posting things and fabricating stuffs which is not the full content to get someone in this situation? Or is he trying to make a drama for some fame for himself? Beats me.

    Speaking of suspicion, this very guy. Whom can afford a 6dex goggles for 900m only Suddenly made 12/12 2 or 3 slots goggles out in 30mins - 1hr’s time. (He mega-ed in game after the 950m last msg to him)

    Unfortunately, as it wasn’t a sucessful sale. I did not have any screenshots or convos of it. All I can say is, prolly this guy was just being salty with his desired item being removed and not being able to purchased it at a real cheap price. I even wanted to offer him a mega phone for him to purchase it somewhere if he thinks mine was expensive.

    Let the community decide on my blacklist. Cheers
     
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    Hi,

    Like I mentioned previously, I don't really care if you're on the blacklist, this post was for visibility so that other players can avoid these types of situations. If OP wants to take you off this list, then that is totally fine by me.

    You removed it from your stall and told me it sold so that you can entice a sale. That is not great behavior, even going to lengths to telling me "I don't see it on the Owl," when you didn't even owl, you OWNed the item. While you didn't necessarily scam me, you attempted to do so by price fixing and lying.

    Nope for visibility so that other players are aware, not necessarily of you, but different ways people can manipulate you in game

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    I was not salty I couldn't get at a cheap price, I was salty at the fact that people go to extreme lengths to close a sale.

    Thanks for responding though, hopefully you don't try to do that to someone else in the future.
     
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    With due respect, you said that "they still pm you even after the whisper from me do you, please provide igns here for a better clarity."
    And with you quoting " since I'm sure I wasn't the first person they had tried this on"
    Please support with evidence. Thank you.
     
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    "I was not salty I couldn't get at a cheap price, I was salty at the fact that people go to extreme lengths to close a sale."

    To go against lowballers like you yourself. Cheers. Glad you made that out :) Have a great day.
     
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    Your perspective on the definition of "scam" seems flawed.
    The core essence of a scam lies in deception or the intention to mislead others, regardless of whether a tangible loss occurs. Even if the person didn't lose anything, the attempt to manipulate or con someone into a vulnerable position still fits the definition of a "scam." It’s not always about the outcome (whether someone suffered a loss) but rather the intent and the ethical implications of the action.
     
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    Hi, thank you for your time in reading this and stating out your perspectives.

    Just like what you said. I agree with you, my perspective seems flawed. Since it's a public forum, with things/report going against me. I am totally fine accepting it as it is if the incident is exactly like what the reporter said, I probably just leave it as it is and learn from it if I am indeed going against the rules. However, it's not. Since the reporter initially reported after that when "they" aka "I" am still pm-ing him after the saga, with the possible case of harassment with no valid evidence which doesnt reflects the facts, fabricating stories to fit his story nicely. I felt I should stand out and voice out my concerns. From my previous replies, I'm not denying any of mistakes made. Neither am I trying to brainwash anyone or get anyone to side up with/for me. With that being said, me voicing out my "flawed" perspective it's just my thinking/perspective. You/Me and everyone here got perspectives here to share it's great. Afterall we are all humans, we each got our ideas/perspectives and how to handle stuffs differently.

    With all these being posted up here, I believed I've made/proved my point and agenda to this. I have no cause/reason to continue replying to whomever who will think I did things right or if I did things wrongly. I am/can only take things as it is and moved on. Since we are all here to relive nostalgia and making memories out from the old maplestory. This comment you just mentioned, and any future comments I will take note and self reflect on any wrong-doings if it is really my fault. At the same point of time, I hope the reporter himself do a self reflection on not trying to fabricate things just to sweeten up his story.

    Thank you to whomever is reading this and cheers. Please excuse me from this saga. xD People whom still feels like giving a advice/comment please carry on. I shall just watch from it.
     
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    I have removed them as per your request. I think this is a very mature thing for you to do, honestly :).
    The unfortunate thing though, is (I assume) the same person has been reported multiple times on other characters with similar names before for other reasons. So they may still be on the list for other offences

    What do you mean fabricating stories? You admitted in a previous comment that you are both FrappeOrMe and MyeyesOnYou, and in the report against you, you act as if you had no idea the item was removed by you. "i think its sold" "didnt find the specs". Am I missing something here? What is being fabricated? If anything, you just made it more clear it was indeed a price fix attempt :confused:
     
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    Hi Shiratsuyu,

    Thank you for looking into this too, as I'm really done with explaining myself and really reluctant to put myself through this again. Please excuse me from this, and sorry for being rude. You might want to re-read again from the first post I submitted, if not it's fine too. I'll accept whatever outcome as it is. Thank you. :)
     
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    cant deny that mans is standing on business in his humility and walked up to confront and squash the beef. just my opinion ᡣ
     
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    1. IGN: Yumiette, Yumitrap

    2. REASON: Attempting to slander my name by accusing me of being a scammer.

    3. DETAILS: I take these accusations seriously as I have never scammed anyone nor have I ever been interested in scamming, and I care deeply about my reputation. Those who have played the game with me side by side know this I play the game casually and because I love the MapleRoyals community. Many can vouch for me.

    The issue began when I was trying to sell my 17atk BFC at 20b, which I valued based on my own understanding of the market. I wanted either a downgrade to a 15 or 16atk BFC plus a top-up of the respective 6b from 15atk and 4b from 16atk. This was my own pricing decision, and I’m entitled to value my items how I see fit.
    What makes this situation even more frustrating is that Yumitrap even made an offer on my items at these prices, showing that they were aware of my pricing and said sorry its a bit expensive for them. Despite this, Yumitrap later began accusing me of scamming and spreading false rumors about me. This is completely unfounded and unfair, especially considering they had previously interacted with my items under the same terms I had offered.

    In addition, Yumitrap tried to "correct" my pricing on BL and I told them not to tell me what prices are for things because I am trying to get the most out of the item even if it takes a bit longer to sell. I was simply trying to sell my items at a higher price, as I felt it was a fair valuation, but instead, I was met with accusations of scamming. And the best part is he goes to a discord server of someone who has many other maple royal players the owner of which I have had an issue with in the past, Yumitrap being spiteful @s him on his discord server for all to see that "I blacklisted Zonith for attempting to scam me" and again I take these accusations seriously as it is my reputation on a game that I care about and in a community that I also deeply care about. Some may say its just a game and yes they're right about that but there are real people behind these screens.

    TL; DR: Yumiette (Yumitrap) is attempting to tarnish my reputation by spreading false rumors that I’m a scammer. Please be cautious when dealing with them, as they will try to manipulate situations. Additionally, they even offered on my items at the same prices they are now calling "scam-like." Be aware and stay cautious when interacting with them in-game or on Discord.
    We were friends and he got mad about me asking him to not tell me prices in BL and he blocked me on discord.

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    be careful of who and how you interact with online and in-game

    the discord server in which he posted this has my friends in it as well as others who actively play on mapleroyals - I am not part of that server because i have disagreements with the owner @nickyLightning and yoomz knows that -> look who he runs to tell of how joyus he is that he found a reason to block me so they both can hate me together. I wont bring up what @nicky and I have grievances on unless he wants to rehash all that in public.

    This is an unfair and unfounded slandering of my name. Especially with the stress I have going on in my real life due to a work accident that has me bed ridden for the past 5 months. So yes sue me I maybe a bit off the deepend caring about my online reputation in a game as it is one of the releases I have while hospitalized.

    ps: everyone online is a chicken nugget ~ meow :3



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    So the best you can do is this? Taking a picture of something i said in a private discord from a friend that you can see the host of this discord responded to my picture.
    Let me first give some context to this scenario.

    1. you are supposed to be one of my friend prior to this comment i made in his discord.
    2. This scenario happened because you tried to rip me off, let me see the word rip off. Could i use a less powerful word? Sure. But i am in a discord with friends a private one i am allowed to speak my mind with them as i wish.
    3. You wanted 6b top off + 16 cape for 17 cape, which is quite wild if i may say and then you tried to make it sound like you going to do a good deal with me if i pay in ws/cs. Lets remember i knew you prior to this and i considered my friend, then
    4. I am suppose to be your guildie/ a friend someone you know and you try to milk me like that ?
    5. As far as i know it is freedom of speech if it is outside of mapleroyal and our own guild discord i can say waht i want you do not control my speech.
    6. I never called you a scammer only said you did try to scam me AKA ripping me off.
    7. Also no i did not try to correct you i literally said that the deal you tlaking about was a good deal why make up stories ? Back it up stop lying. Many people were in VC that day stop trying to lie.

    Also power tripping a bit much over a comment i made on a dam discord completely apart from our guild and game ? [​IMG]
     
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    the 16cape price was a typo for the 15 cape price thats all ill say anyone who saw my smegas will see that the prices align correctly.

    also you're a disgusting human inside and out back-stabbing and petty. and if u checked you are still in the guild. you're welcome :p
     
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    Guys, this is just he said, she said bickering with cropped, out of context screenshots. Deal with this privately :adminban:
     
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