Closed Shoutbox Appeal

All Your Character Names: jk777, Batter, ChinChin, Darksouls, 2m2mNoClown, and, illumin8
Last thing you did: Spoke to Dave in the shoutbox
Why do you think you got banned?: I have thoroughly reviewed the ToS again and cannot understand what prompted this.
Ban message when attempting to log in: None, as this is related to the forum.
What GM banned you (optional): Davedeviluke

I must request this be handled by a member of staff other than Dave, as I have reason to believe there is an unfair bias against me.

Please refer to the transcript of the shoutbox, between 12:30 and 15:00 (GMT+1), today, 03/04/2025. Please post the full transcript from that time frame, so I may review it as well.

I have not been given a reason, nor a length of ban, in the message that Dave had sent me. Please let me know if that is needed, and I will provide it.

Thanks,
Spooky

*PS - I must request the title be changed to "Shoutbox Appeal". This is an error on my part, as I originally had planned to appeal both at the same time. However, it's better organization to have both requests on separate tickets, and I will request the Discord appeal when I am ready. Thank you.

 

It was only mentioned because I was asking for assistance on where I should appeal it, to which Geto had advised me that it's a normal ban appeal. Last I checked, that's fine. I did not go into ANY further detail until AFTER Dave had responded to me. In fact, Dave was the one who brought up the "incident" on "another server's" Discord server, and my ban. If you would kindly refer to the shoutbox logs, again, you will see I even advised Dave to cease speaking about both in the shoutbox, suggesting we can discuss it over DMs. Please post a transcript of the shoutbox, between 12:30 and 15:00 (GMT+1), from 03/04/2025, so we may review it, as your statement is incorrect, from what I understand.

No; I only made more posts, replying to Dave, in the shoutbox, because he had replied to me. I was prepared to start drafting my Discord ban appeal by the time I saw his messages. Which, by the way, should not have been made by him, as they discuss the "incident" on "another server's" Discord server, and my Discord ban + would-be ban appeal.

Getting banned from the Royals Discord server was a separate incident, and the "incident" on "another server's" Discord server should not be a factor in this, as it's on another server, and had been handled by a GM there, so there is no reason for it to be brought up, even in a casual context. I have also told several people on that Discord server to not pry into it, or pester Dave about it. I have blocked Dave on Discord as a result of it, as I do not want to see anything he posts, as I may feel inclined to respond to anything directed at me, as I have done with his shoutbox messages. I do not want to communicate with him in any casual fashion, after what he has done. I have ignored him in the shoutbox before, and I can do it again, but please do not blame me for getting egged on into replying to him, which resulted in this.

The ban was issued by Dave, who did not have to post about the "incident" on "another server's" Discord server, and my ban, in the shoutbox, as far as I'm aware. I felt very inclined to respond to him; do I have to apologize for getting baited into that? Do I need to report him for banbaiting? I don't wish to do either.

You mean when I was asking where I should post something, in order to not break ToS by posting in the wrong section? Granted I said something like, "I can't believe I have to f***ing do this, but here we are" (in the transcripts btw), but that's a small spaghetti stain in comparison to what I and others normally post in the shoutbox.

These are two separate incidents from my shoutbox ban, and I hold the right to choose whether I appeal one or the other, if at all. Coercing me into appealing my Discord ban with the promise of making a decision on my shoutbox ban is blackmail, and I really don't comfortable appealing my Discord ban until after this is sorted, now that you've said this.

Ah, funny, he seemed very quick to bring it up on both servers (which, again, he shouldn't've), which makes it seem like he did. Either way, I don't care who banned me, and this ticket is about my shoutbox ban.

Again, please rename this ticket to "Shoutbox Appeal", as I am only appealing my shoutbox ban at this time.

Please, take your time replying, as I recognize this is a low priority ticket, and there are more severe bans that need more attention. The shoutbox is not integral to my royals flow, and I can wait a year or more before having access again.

Thanks,
Spooky

 

Hi Heidi,

As per my previous 2 requests:

Please post a transcript of the shoutbox, between 12:30 and 15:00 (GMT+1), from 03/04/2025, so we may review it.

Please post what you're referring to.

Why? You've failed to provide me with the evidence of what I've apparently done and give me due process. (as much due process that you can give someone on mushroom game)
And, ackshually, it does cause me issue. Not my access to the shoutbox, but the fact it was taken away due to a moderator's misconduct, despite me following the Terms of Service, and that this ban appeal has been a Terms of Circus. You were COERCING me into appealing A SEPARARTE BAN in order to advance this one (textbook blackmail). You were referencing a minor """""incident""""" on "another server's" Discord server, which HAD BEEN HANDLED TO COMPLETION, as SOMEHOW being a reason for me being banned from the shoutbox on THIS server. I'm now having to ask you a THIRD time to show me the shoutbox logs, so I may know what I was even banned for.

I think Matt and Tim have heard enough about Dave. Besides, last I checked, we're not allowed to DM members of staff in regards to bans or ban appeals, to which Dave and you are involved, so, please, do not suggest something like that, as it seems a little banbaity.

ALL of that aside, I'd just like to ask, as per what you said:
>Your appeal of your Shoutbox ban has been denied for the time being
>for the time being
Ebin. Do I need to make another appeal, or will you actually review what was said in the shoutbox (and this alleged post 3 hours after the fact, that you've mentioned in your previous response) with me?

Don't take this personally, and, thank you for renaming the thread.

Regards,
Spooky

 

Hi Heidi,

A tall, good looking, anonemous cohort has graciously provided me with a transcript of the shoutbox, that we may refer to:

Highlighted in yellow: me asking for assistance on where I should post a discord appeal.

Highlighted in red: a shitpost I made in reference to a post made a few lines offscreen. If you needed further proof it was a meme, please note the timestamp (or you can post the transcripts in full, so we may see the post I was referencing). This shoutbox ban appeal did not even exist at the time of that shoutbox shitpost, nor did I even start drafting my yet-to-be-made discord ban appeal.

EDIT: the timestamps in the photo are 2 hours ahead, FWIW (all the more reason to post transcripts)

Everything said after Dave's initial post about me "pinging him (asking for firewood)", was me replying to him. That cannot be a reason for my shoutbox ban, as I was simply replying to Dave, even suggesting we take his issues to DMs, as the shoutbox was no place for it.


Now that we've gotten that cleared up, you have accused me of making a post complaining about this shoutbox ban appeal. Despite the fact I have just proven my innocence, and my shoutbox ban should be lifted, you are asserting it is related.

Please, show me the post made "[...] almost 3 hours later, asking for an admin, with a comment about your appeal", and we will see if it is related to the initial conversation in the shoutbox.

Please, reopen the ticket, as this is not completed.

Thanks,
Spooky

 

I'm not complaining, I'm trying to appeal my unjust shoutbox ban. I am just following proper procedure, which is to make a ban appeal, as Dave would probably specify.

I've just proven my innocence, and you can't quote the post made "[...] almost 3 hours later, asking for an admin, with a comment about your appeal", so, as far as I'm concerned, I must be given my shoutbox functionality back. If you cannot come to that decision yourself, after reviewing your own posts, and the evidence I had to provide, after asking you multiple times and not receiving anything, then I must question your ability to judge my appeal fairly and consciously, and this will need to be handed to another admin for a second opinion.

Thanks,
Spooky

 

Splendid, if someone could please show... maybe the previous 100+ posts prior to me asking about where to post my yet-to-be-made Discord appeal, I can point out the post I am referencing (it starts with "any admin? my appeal [...]").
And again, my Discord appeal does not exist (yet), and my Shoutbox appeal was not made until after that post, so, any chance of it having legitimacy as an actual complaint about a ban apeal is nonexistent. If shitposts/jokes like that are not allowed in the shoutbox, then we'd all be in hot water.

Thank you for escalating.

*PS - I'd just like to add, Dave asking me to submit a ban appeal after I made that joke post is, essentially, a forum moderator acknowledging I had no ban appeal in progress. Ergo, my joke post holds no ground as a legitimate complaint. I've now saved you the trouble of having to find the post I referenced, but, I would still urge you to post the posts made before my initial question on where to post my yet-to-be-made Discord appeal, so there may be visual evidence on this ticket, should anything come up in future.

Alas, I will await for someone to come and retrive those logs, so I may finally be unbanned from the shoutbox.