Closed Continued ban appeal

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    This is in continuation to my previous ban appeal (link). It was almost a year ago and I'm still upset (pathetic, I know [:D]) because I think that this ban was wrongfully assigned. I would like to question the admins further to get a better understanding of the accusations and maybe be able to prove my innocense.
    From my understanding, I have been banned for a link to the character sindit12, with whom I share similar credentials. The character sindit12 was banned in connection to skinnywhity which was banned for a damage hack.
    Once again, I'd like to note that we're talking about an account that was created in 2016 according to the staff, and which makes my appeal much more difficult because refuting accusations from almost a decade ago is practically impossible. But I would like to give it another try.
    I still have no recollection of the character sindit12 and I literally do not remember ever hacking or trying to hack in MapleRoyals. I've played this game for almost a decade amatuerly, and if I had been a rule breaker my characters would've been much better, with more meso and higher levels but I've just been playing this game on and off as a hobby and never took it too seriously.

    I would like to offer a possible explanation, and it's really a shot in the dark since I wasn't provided with that many details. The only connection my accounts have to sindit12 according to Tim is similar usernames, emails.
    When I was much younger I had a friend called Tom which introduced me to MapleStory, he had an account first and I created an account after him. I didn't have an email back then so I created an email similar to his and also used a similar account ID for GMS. I've been using the same email and account name since then. My theory is that maybe Tom played MapleRoyals, and used similar credentials to mine and that's how you found the similarities in the username and email. I will not reveal my whole account ID here since it's public but both of us had account ID starting with 3 digits and then a string. If admins have access to forum conversations they can see me talking to Tim about getting access back to my actual account back in 2016, to which I've lost the credentials to back then.

    I would also like to add that all the accounts I've been using share a similar password and pin/pic and that did not match with the account of sindit12 according to Tim which further solidifies my appeal. I started playing MapleRoyals almost a decade ago and have been using the same 3-4 accounts since the beginning. It can also be seen through the choices I made with the character names which most of them relate to music I like (MadSounds is my bishop, named after the Arctic Monkeys song. AgileBeast is my NL named after the nickname of Arctic Monkeys' drummer Matt Helders, Absentia is an album by the very talented Porcupine Tree), and using a name as basic as sindit12 is not something that I'd do [:)]

    Lastly, I would like to point out that another person was linked with the connection to skinnywhity, and it seems like that was a mistake back then which might suggest that it is a mistake now aswell (link)
     
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    Tim didn't say it's similar

    From https://royals.ms/forum/threads/this-isnt-appealing.236982/#post-1458567
     
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    Hey Dave, thanks for the reply.
    So at first Tim commented:
    And since I have literally zero context and cannot refute these accusations I asked for more information:
    To that Tim replied:
    Meaning that the match was in the username and email.
    Usernames are unique meaning that one of the 4 usernames I have is similar to the banned username.
    And as far as I know it's one email per account meaning that the email is also similar and not a perfect match.
     
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    No, it's possible to create multiple Royals (in-game) accounts with the same email
    There isn't a need to use multiple unique emails
     
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    OMG! Thank you for that!!! Now I understand the confusion and can offer a viable explanation. My personal name is Almog, it's a common name in Israel (means Coral ). All my account IDs have my name in them and most of my emails as well. The match that you have was based on that first name basis because the name of the person relating to the inital ban for sindit12 is also named Almog. I'd like to back my claim with a few points:
    Looking over the profile of almogi4966 we can see the following (wish I knew how to make the image smaller, sorry):
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    1. He's also from Israel (according to the country flag) which means that it's highly probable that Almog is his personal (first) name, the same as my name.
    2. Last activity is Nov 14, 2016. my forum account was created before that (Oct 1, 2016). If it was me, why would I create another account?
    3. I don't have the exact information but my account creation dates (for the first account that I created) was prior to the forum account creation.

    I can offer more explanation and proof to validate my point but I think it's pretty clear that this ban was wrongfully issued...
     
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    That I did not know. Thanks for this information.
     
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    Just to clarify, you're saying that the character sindit12 doesn't belong to you, but likely belongs to your friend Tom

    And this same Tom:
    • Introduced you to MapleStory
    • Uses an email address similar to yours
    • Has an account name similar to yours
    • Shares the same real name as you - Almog?
     
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    Nononono! You're understanding this wrong.
    My last appeal was almost a year ago. I know this ban is wrongfully assigned and I carried that feeling for almost a year. During this time I was trying to think of possible explanations to why you guys made that mistake because I know I did not break any game rules. I remembered that when I started playing I had a friend who I played GMS with and both of us used similar but different account ID's. I thought that maybe he also played MapleRoyals and that's how you got the credentials match. But you can completely disregard that since it was a shot in the dark as I said and obviously that's not the case.

    This is what I'm saying: the connection you have to me and sindit12 is the usernames and email. All my emails/account ID's have my first name in them (Almog). The guy that is the real owner of sindit12 probably also has that as it's pretty common to include the first name in the email/account ID. Relating me to that account is wrong since the only thing we have in common is a first name.

    Let me elaborate with a fictional example:
    Let's say for example that your email is [email protected] and your account ID is davems, and another person named Dave Schrute with the email [email protected] and an Account ID of davesch will join MapleRoyals and get a ban for whatever reason. Is it correct to link you (Dave Deviluke) to the ban that Dave Schrute recieved? No, since you're not the same person, the only thing you have in common is a first name.

    Now linking this example to my case - My first name is Almog, something that unfortunately I share with this almogi4966 guy, whoever that might be. He got a ban for being related to a hacker, and you guys related this ban to be because both of us use our first name in our email and account ID. If I am still not clear, please let me know and I'll clarify further.
     
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    I can assure you that you will not get a password/pin/pic match for my accounts with the account(s) of almogi4966, since we are two different people who share the same first name in real life. All the accounts related to me have the same password/pin/pic.
    And btw I can provide more information about the account ids in private if you want, since I understand that I cannot post exact information about accound IDs in a public forum.
     
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    This is not me, I have no idea who that is. And once again I would like to ask you to disregard the explanation I said about my old friend Tom as I stated that it is a shot in a dark since I was trying to figure out why you wrongfully linked me with sindit12. I had no context of how you linked me with sindit12 and was trying to think how that might've happend. Dave gave me that context with the following reply which helped me figure out how you linked me with sindit12 and now I can explain why you made the mistake of linked me with sindit12. Dave's reply was the final piece of the puzzle which made me realize that you linked me to sindit12 because the owner of that character and I share a first name. I don't know how to make this clearer so please let me know if there's any more questions regarding this.

     
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    Any particular reason you're spoofing your IP address for this ban appeal?
     
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    Oh, sorry about that - I'm a software developer and I'm currently using a VPN to work with services that we have deployed on AWS. I can turn that off if that's necessary.
     
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    Yeah, you should - using VPNs just raises further red flags for us.
     
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    I don't understand how that relates to my case, and I think it's pretty likely that people are doing other stuff while answering comments on a forum but I turned it off if that helps :)
     
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    Hey, if you need more time to investigate and verify my claims, that’s totally fine and I'll wait patiently, I just wanted to clarify the current status of my appeal as it is unclear to me. Is it waiting on admin review? I noticed it’s not tagged with 'Awaiting Admin Action', so I wasn’t sure if it’s still in general investigation or if something else is happening. If there’s any additional information you need from me, please let me know.
     
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    Kindly allow the GMs some time to go over what has been discussed. Your patience is appreciated as they work on a response.
     
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    Your appeal was already handled and denied by one of our Admins back in 2024. We aren't buying this story because we know it's you. There's no way your friend Tom knew what credentials you would use, used them to make an account here and gotten themselves banned.

    The Admins already looked into it, we won't bother asking them to do it again.

    Your appeal is closed, do not make any more in the future.
     
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    Hey Becca, I understand that the admins have looked into this already but new evidence surfaced which literally proves that I have no connection to the banned account.
    I think it's unfair to not give me the chance to defend myself, that's the whole point of the ban appeal.
    If the admins think that I deserved to be banned after reviewing the new evidence and my explanation I'll accept that, but I think I deserve the right to get their input.

    I do want to note that the last thing that I'm trying to do is waste staff time as I appreciate your work very much, but I sincerely believe that if you give me the chance to explain myself I'll be able to prove I have no relation to the banned account.
     
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