Why are BFC's worth more than FS?

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    Well the demand should virtually be the same. Someone isnt going to keep upgrading their cape if they can get better value from their shoe and vice versa. If it's the supply, then thats more of a conversation in which we would then ask why or how is the supply higher or lower?

    And while the market isnt perfect, there should still be some kind of cause behind it, because its more than just a small amount of variance we are seeing
     
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    Wow, 15 att gloves used to be 750m? holy inflation
     
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    facestompers come from taru totems which drop from several different gachapons where bfcs only come from cwkpq (which usually is pretty dry and probably run less than the taru dropping gachapons). 5 att bfcs are typically less stable in their prices. I have seen them range from 500-700m. Capes start at a higher attack, so fewer probably go to zero attack. BFCs are the only cape that go to 5 attack without a godly roll. There are so many variable that can affect the prices. With the high attack CGS market being so dry in supply and demand that is further reason for varying prices. If someone is willing to pay so much for one or the other, then that is what it is worth. You cannot expect them to always be the same price.
     
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    It also just takes one bidding war or desperate/shady buyer to inflate the price of a piece of wa gear, and the inflated price can stick for months.

    (see 17 shoe which has a nonsensical price now)
     
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    First I want to make it clear Im not expecting the market to be perfect or that prices should always be the same since you keep making that point. Im really not sure how you got that impression in the first place. I literally make my entire living from investing, I'm well aware of such a surface level basic fact.

    Aside from that you make some interesting points. Yes there are many variables that can affect prices, which is the whole point of the thread - What are the variables causing "equivalent" shoes to be cheaper than capes? So you're impression is that higher attack capes are harder to achieve than shoes due to lower supply of capes, is that right?
     
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    Does this ever get to point where a higher atk shoe (like 13atk+) is more expensive than its +3atk equivalent cape?
     
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    Ok so you understand trading so you get that it's not all fundamentals and sometimes the market is just a little stupid, right? People are willing to pay a price and others are willing to sell at the price. It just be how it be. If you think you know a price better than the market, buy up the market and set a price you think it's right.
     
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    I think you could try a less harsh tone. He is just trying to provide some thought on ur question, which I think even the most sophisticated merch/player/whatever could not answer.

    also wb pro.
     
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    At the highest level, WA gear gets super rare — usually just a couple pieces floating around and a handful of endgame players waiting on them. That’s when people start tossing crazy offers just to secure the slot.

    Seen it a lot with 70 WA set pieces especially
     
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    You somehow seem to be under the impression that I am advocating that FS should be worth more than BFC's when in reality I'm simply trying to figure out why. No im not going to buy up this market and try to resell it at whatever price, im not trying to invert anything here, again just questioning. You said there are many variables and even explained things about the discrepency in the supply, so why would you then go on the opposite end of the spectrum and just say something as simple as "its people being stupid"

    Maybe it is the market being stupid, I think thats a strong reason for it, but there are other factors that are potentially stronger that could be discussed here. Such as the fact that VL boots at 8/6 have a higher potential than 10/5 BFC's or as you mentioned before, a discrepancy in the supply
     
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    Thanks, happy to be back ~

    And well I find it irritating that im being told such basic facts on 2 different occasions in ways that imply that I somehow believe the opposite. I dont want people thinking im some dumbass that doesn't know "the market isnt perfect and I cant expect prices to stay the same". Anybody is justified to be irritated when people are making it sound like you believe such foolishness
     
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    Yea that makes sense, but it doesnt answer my question: Does this ever get to point where a higher atk shoe (like 13atk+) is more expensive than its +3atk equivalent cape?

    @Zenoooo mentioned at higher lvls the difference grows even more, so sounds like it would be even harder for shoes to be more expensive than a +3cape counterpart if anything
     
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    [​IMG] lol
     
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