HP Wash question

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    read 5 again
    you can still add base int, you just do -mp +int every level
     
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    When you level up:
    • Calculate your minimum MP (Formula: (Level x 14) + 148)
    • If your (current MP - minimum MP) > 60, you HP wash
    • Else, MP wash
     
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    Hey
    but when I hp wash, i do -MP +INT because im still building base int?
     
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    Basic Washing Info

    Whenever you level up, you gain 5 AP. That's called "Fresh AP".

    There are generally 2 ways to "HP Wash":
    1) Fresh AP into HP + Use an APR to do -MP +Stat
    2) Use APR to do -MP +HP

    Thieves should be using (1) as much as possible but since it requires Fresh AP and those are limited, (2) can be done later to bridge the gap between your HP and your HP goal.

    For now, you focus on HP washing with method (1) as long as you have the MP to do it. Neither (1) nor (2) rely on INT (or any other stat) to be effective so it can be done at any level. MP washing on the other hand is more effective if your base INT is higher so as a general rule, you want to save it for after you reached your INT goal. But in the case of this guide, MP washing is suggested early for cases where you have Fresh AP and don't have enough MP to HP wash with method (1).

    In other words, you want to make use of every Fresh AP by either HP washing (to build HP when you have the MP to do so) or MP washing (to build MP when you don't).

    To Answer Your Question

    Every time you gain a level, you need to check how much extra MP you have with those formulas SnowyAce mentioned to determine if you HP wash x5 or MP wash x5 with your 5 Fresh AP.

    If Extra MP is > 59, that means you have enough extra MP to HP wash:
    Fresh AP into HP x5
    Use an APR to do -MP +Stat x5

    And if Extra MP < 60, then you do not have enough extra MP to HP wash so MP Wash instead:
    Fresh AP into MP x5
    Use an APR to do -MP +Stat x5

    Where Stat = INT until you reach your INT goal and LUK afterwards
     
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