In Defense of Cheesecake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

 

Wikipedia 100% accurate

Confirmed

 

Technically,he did broke the terms of the game and is liable for a ban(based on the information stated in the first post).Terms and conditions are setted in this game and we should follow them.It doesn't matter what people feel or think,what matters is the rules that exist.The thing is,we often forget that this is still a game.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...s-and-laws-the-top-10-from-Godwin-to-Poe.html just for you

 

Funny I seen several here have the logic, Hitler was bad so everything is bad

So funny:

"It is closely related to the logical fallacy “reductio ad Hitlerum”, which says “Hitler (or the Nazis) liked X, so X is bad."

 

There was literally no reason why Cheesecake was banned for Ksing. That report was incredibly weak, and I seriously cannot see why he isn't unbanned yet. Also I realize that me saying this won't change the staff's mind. But they seriously need to take a second look at that KS report because from what I can see, there is no reason why he was banned for ksing.

 

The reason was cause he insulted OldTheory in that thread and that was taken as admission of guilt, it's clearly a stupid ban.

 

The rules are written in a way that makes it very hard to understand if you would get perma banned for 3 offences or if it depends of what rules you break,

Almost everything gives the same punishment except like account sharing, with these rules I'm allowed to account share once for a 30 day ban and then get banned twice for minor offences.

It's clear he broke 2 separate rules but just because they fall under same ban length he got perma banned,

If I get caught vote abusing once that will give me a 7 day ban, if I then get banned for harassment/kill stealing, is that my first offence? second? perma banned right away?

The rules doesn't give any clear indication of this if I have 2 chances or 3 or more,

I would suggest removing most of the ban lengths and place them under same category now it looks like separate offences.

 

He actually broke the same rule three times. This is the rule he broke.

Engage in rude, unlawful, harassing, vulgar, obscene, hateful, threatening, abusive or otherwise objectionable behavior, including, without limitation, looting, kill stealing, making sexual comments; Punishment: 1st offence - 3 day ban, 2nd offence - 7 day ban, 3rd offence - permanent ban

 

I thought the smega would fall under,

8. Transmit any content that is unlawful, harassing, vulgar, obscene, hateful, fraudulent, threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable, or that could be deemed to be stalking or constitute an invasion of a right of privacy of another person.

 

Be using the smega, he "engaged in ____ behavior." You could arguably fill in that blank with any number of those words. It's rude. It's hateful. One could argue it's vulgar and/or obscene. And it is certainly objectionable. Matt and/or John have the final say. They decided it fell within one or more of those rules (as I'm sure most of us could also find at least ONE word to fit that blank), so there is no reason to argue the vague nature of the wording.

 

That's meant to be 'transmitting content'. For example, linking porn websites hate sites, posting someone's personal Facebook, etc. Like I said earlier, we need to change the wording of that rule to make it less confusing.

I would say he engaged in rude, vulgar and obscene behavior. He was banned under rule 5 three times.

 

There is 1 more thing since a player was able to retract his report against a player after that person already had been banned wouldn't it work the same way with any who has reported the CheeseMan in the 2 other reports

 

I'm still just wondering why he didn't get a 7 day ban at any point?

 

Well one report was for the n word, nothing take back there. The other was for KSing, which happened months ago, and he kind of took the blame there for flat out being a dick to the guy who reported him

So the answer is maybe, but the only report that can be taken back was an event that happened in January.

Edit: grammar

 

I don't think the lack of giving him a 7-day ban was ever addressed.

 

I cannot comment on what I don't know. What I do know, and what is a fact, is that he broke the same rule 3 times. That is worthy of a permanent ban.

The guy showed blatant disrespect for our rules.

Him, and only him, is to blame for what transpired.

He broke the ToS, he is banned, that's all there is to it.

 

How is insulting a person considered admitting guilt? OldTheory is known for abusing the mapowner command at Lykas and Cheesecake was tired of it. Theres literally no proof of Cheesecake Ksing. Also in the second screenshot, you can see a red dot on the left side of the mini map. That could be Cheesecake trying to change channel or it could be a completely different person.

 

Perhaps the staff would have investigated it more if cheesecake didn't act like a jack ass and incriminate himself.

That ban happened in January... He wouldn't even be permanently banned if he wasn't so self destructive.

I can't understand what's not to get about this. Grasp at straws all you'd like people, but all that matters is that he broke the rules which he agrees to upon registration.

 

I mean, I can somewhat understand that he broke 2 rules, but I fail to see how the ks ban happened. It shouldnt matter how a person acts, the staff should be investigating each report thoroughly. Isnt that the job of a game master? To get rid of the guilty players and to keep the community clean. From what I can see Cheesecake, no matter what he said, was not guilty of kill-stealing.