Hero Vs drk allbuff DPM( theor)

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    coefficient
    Spear= 3(cut)/5(stab)
    Sword =4.6/4.6

    Max Range=((str*coefficient)+dex)*W.A/100
    Min =((str*coefficient*0.9*mastery+dex)*W.A/100

    *crusher always stab=5
    *mastery hero=0.6 drk=0.8

    average range
    Hero=((STR*3.542)+dex)*W.A
    Dk=((STR*4.3)+dex)*W.A


    Brandish= 260% (281% with se) (271.052631579 % with se ) or (515% with se and ACA) 630ms(as2)
    Spear crusher= 170%(191% with se) 810ms(as2)

    ACA=190%
    Zerk=210%
    Rage/DB+12wa
    enrage+17wa (26*240/360=17.333333)

    assumption
    1200str、120dex、139skyski/150claymore、60cgs、stopper or apple

    Stopper:
    Hero average range=
    ((1200*3.542)+120)*2.99=13067.498
    Drk average range=
    ((1200*4.3)+120)*2.71=14308.8

    DPM
    Hero=13067.498*5.15*2*60000/630
    = 13,289,021 (13.28M)
    =12818590 (12.818M)
    Drk=14308.8*1.91*3*2.1*60000/810
    =12753910.4 (12.75M)


    Apple:
    Hero average range=
    ((1200*3.542)+120)*3.39=14815.656
    Drk average range=
    ((1200*4.3)+120)*3.11=16420.8


    DPM
    Hero=14815.656*5.15*2*60000/630
    = 15,066,816(15.06M
    = 14,533,453(14.53M
    Drk=16420.8*1.91*3*2.1*60000/810
    =14,636,406. (14.63M)



    Hero before buffed
    stoper : 12,000,119 (12M) 11575316(11.57M
    Apple : 13,777,914(13.77M) 13290178(13.29M


    IF dk Dragon blood stack with rage =
    stoper : 13,318,659.2 (13.31M)
    Apple : 15,201,155.2(15.2M)
     
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    Brandish with se
    281%=(260%*0.85+400%*0.15)
    (260%*190%*0.85) +((260%*190%)+140%*0.15)
    =(515% with aca) or (271.052631579%)

    Crusher with se
    191%=(170%*0.85+310%*0.15)

    Blast
    601%(580*0.85)+(720*0.15)

    PALY
    13,755,933 (13.75M)
    15,707,130.(15.70M)
     
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    IF dk Dragon blood stack with rage =
    stoper : 13,318,659.2 (13.31M)
    Apple : 15,201,155.2(15.2M)

    Dk win Heros 5% DPM

    @lxlx
     
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    Did you include attack speed in there? Hero/pally attack faster than DK. Also how did you handle pally charges? I believe the elemental bonus isn't 1.5x but is equal to charge bonus again (1.3 or 1.4x)
     
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    Yup she did, here it is, Ive see the calculation process, she didnt miss any detail
     
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    after test .
    i think 281% was wrong
    Brandish is 634% with aca se crit (15mins 252 max damge)


    So its
    (260%*190%*0.85) +((260%*190%)+140%*0.15)
    =515% with ACA
    =271.05% with out ACA

    Not 281%


    ill test DRK soon

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    use hight ATT pots and end game gears
    Drk still strong than hero now

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    Charge = 130% * 150% Bonus ( 195% )
     
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    i don't believe!!!!!!
     
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    Zerk work on se thats why dk still strong than hero now

    Brandish 271.05% / 260% (4.25% )
    Crusher 191% /170% (12.35%)
     
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    Might be wrong, needs better testing to see if element bonus is 1.5 or 1.3/1.4x for pally. I'm thinking it might be 1.3/1.4x based off low lv fire charge not having your damage against fire strong enemies.
     
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    ok maybe drk is still a little stronger than hero when full buff (se, si, mw20, echo), but if you are party leader with 3-4 bucc/shad/nl and have one slot, drk and hero ask to join, who u pick! that is why hero is stronger!
     
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    ya SE is not meant to work on top of ACA, is pre that, but still, something is missing there, due the dmg seen
     
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    39~75 with def
    range (21-40)

    umm i think maxe charge with bonus >close 195%?   
    maybe iwas wrong need test more ..

    thank <3
     
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    Just for have sure: remember that the mastery for DrK is 0.8 in formules due to +20% from Beholder (4th job skill) ok? <3
     
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    yas thats why mastery drk = 0.8

    if DK master 0.6 = str *3.85 its wrong
     
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    umm i think maxe charge with bonus = close 195%?   
    cus 1.4x = 130%*140%=182%... 40*182=72.8

    maybe i was wrong need test more ..

    thank <3
     
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    I agree. Heros rage is great no need change
    by comparison, HB seems useless....
    Give dk good party buffs plss
     
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    Elemental advantage from elemental charges actually goes up each level, until 150% at max level, and 50% for strong. So at low level, the elemental strong reduction is "weaker" than max level.

    Ayumilove has it like this:

    Fire/Ice/Lightning Charge element (MAX lv 30)
    Advantage = Base damage * (105% + Charge level * 1.5%)
    Disadvantage = Base damage * (95% - Charge level * 1.5%)

    Holy Charge element (MAX lv 20)
    Advantage = Base damage * (120% + Charge level * 1.5%)
    Disadvantage = Base damage *(80% - Charge level * 1.5%)
     
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    I pick the one that I know won't DC [:3]
     
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