I've been thinking of this for a few weeks whenever or not I should post it but here goes. I've seen people requesting a (perm) ban on their account for a certain time but regrets it afterwards. Few months ago I saw a post from a member that played here around 2013, saying he had his account permanent banned by himself (in a thread, of course) but begged to have his account back so he could play. Didn't go as planned. So how about this; A player have the privilege to "pause" their account on an indefinite time. This will give the player a chance to make the right decision if he wants to come back or not. But how would you like this to be balanced? Do you want certain demands for the person to use it, such as donor status? (This is a feature made by Blizzard, where as you have to pay subscription in order to play the game, otherwise the account will be frozen and remain as.) And shall people who had in their past been permanent banned by making a thread about it have the right to use this to make themselves unbanned? Feedback is appreciated. Thanks for reading.
I agree with this, since a lot of people who have requested a perm ban regret doing it after a few months, they should be able to request or have a way to come back.
How about the person just doesn't log in if they don't want to request a self ban? It's just as easy to login to an account as it is to unfreeze the account in a moment of weakness.
I understand what you mean John, never the less, there's people who are too impulsive and just write the ban request, after a few hours, days or months, they regret doing it don't you think? I think it wouldn't hurt these people come back, now if they do a 2nd request then don't let them come back again since they would probably just keep on doing the same.
The discussion is not about unbanning people who self request a ban. The thread is about implementing the freezing of accounts, which is why I said it's not necessary as someone can unfreeze their account just as easily as logging into their account that isn't banned.
The freezing of accounts idea is basically the same thing as letting people who request a ban be allowed to unrequest it. If someone requests to be permanently banned, then a few months later want to come back, I do not see why they should not be allowed to have the requested ban removed. The idea @Knattis has is ultimately about being able to unrequest one's ban.
However, typically when someone asks for a permanent ban (I know someone who will post a case where this didn't happen) we have them confirm it and they know full well that that decision is permanent and binding. They have a chance to back out or even not request a permanent ban. It's not like we say "you can only pick from a 30 day, 1 year, or permanent ban"
I'd prefer it if user-requested bans were a maximum of 3 months, which can be renewed on request when they expire, should the player still wish to remain banned.
I don't see why people need to request bans in the first place. Want to quit? Uninstall and stop playing. Change your mind? Re-download the client and jump back on. Do people really lack the self control to not log into a game for a period of time? Asking for a self-ban in itself screams "I want to quit, but know I'll come back.", so of course 99% of these people are going to regret it, lol. I feel I may have rambled on a bit here, so what I'm trying to say is: if you waste the staff's time requesting a ban because you don't have that tidbit of self control required to log off and stay off, then I don't think you really deserve an unban. This freezing/unfreezing seems like a waste of time and effort.
I feel this to be a very minor case on the staff's side and it's also a waste of time. It gears towards more on the discipline aspect of the player. Initially I thought of posting a request for my account to be suspended due to my school term starting about a week, but hey, why not try to control your ownself and not rely on others?
I get that it is a waste of staff's time to ban and unban someone, but people make mistakes and people change their minds overtime. Everyone has their own ways on how they discipline themselves. Sometimes they need some kind of a system to get work done, which is why they request a self-ban. People spent time playing this server, which means they put value into it. I don't see the problem of letting those who requested permanent self-bans to play again. I mean if they aren't breaking any rules/ or aren't previous offenders, why not. If the people want to play, let them play. I'm in favor of this as well. Edit: Fixed some grammar stuffs
Just don't request a perma ban. If you ask for a permanent ban then that is exaclty what you get. Usually you only feel the urge to play 2weeks or a month after you needed to quit playing. so request a ban for 2 months or half a year. After that you'll either have forgotten about the game (Problem solved) or you can immidiatly start playing again (Problem solved). No need to bother anyone with your own problems...
I am one of the people who requested a perm ban; yes, I fully regret it now, at the time I was not thinking straight - but I know there isn't any way to ever get unbanned. From my own opinion, I think that the system of being able to ask for an unban ONCE, and only once, can be requested and the player be warned they have used their only 'benefit of the doubt card' or whatever you want to call it. Do it again, and your request will be declined due to obvious wasting of the staffs time. Not everyone can just uninstall the game, and some people think irrationally to get away from the game. Hell, people who request a perm ban are treated worse than people who are bad for the game imo (botters, scammers etc.), at least those people can put their story across and potentially be unbanned (slim, but could be possible, and heck, scammers don't even get banned, so they for sure are treated better than people who request bans). Just my 2 cents, I know the staff will instantly dismiss it but whatever.
See, this confuses me. You're saying some people don't have it in them to just uninstall the game, but they want to get away from it. The only way for those people to escape the game is by asking for a self ban, right? Well - seems to me that the staff are enforcing your lack of self control to stay off the game (at your request, mind you). And if they just unbanned you because you changed your mind then what was the purpose of having someone intervene for you because you couldn't get off the game on your own? People are asking for a ban because they're too weak to stay away on their own. They knew that they'd crumble and come back, but wanted to make sure they couldn't. Therefore the whole purpose is for them not to be allowed back no matter how much they want to return. In my opinion the best resolution would be for the staff to simply not bother with self ban requests. I don't see why they should be wasting their effort on banning or unbanning people for absolutely no valid reason.
I figured out what's equivalent to a freeze, unless you have one hell of a photographic memory. Just open a word doc and faceroll your keyboard for a new password. Change password and delete doc so all traces are gone. When you've realized that your life has become nothing without royals then request a password change on the forums. Also apologize for the extra work you made them do.
I think people just need to learn self control. That's just how life is. I don't think the GMs should waste their time in dealing with this as they have more important issues. If you can't learn some self control, then I wish you good luck with everything else in your life.
I've never actually had anyone request of me a permanent ban; if they did, I'd honestly advise more or less what Katsuruka said earlier. I'd tell them that we will not be reversing any permanent bans that are requested in future, end of story, and that if the player has any inclination that down the road they may once again want access to the game, they should limit their ban to a finite period of maybe 3-6 months after which they will have likely forgotten about Royals anyway (if that is their goal) and won't have the drive to log back in. If they still choose a permanent ban, then that is their choice and I'd like to think that if they make that choice, it's an educated choice and not taken lightly, and thus neither would I; I wouldn't ever consider unbanning someone who has requested something so permanent because I'd assume it's for a really, really good reason.
