If a new world was added...what would YOU do? (Poll)

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If a new world was added that was either the same or similar with only changes to balancing issues..

  1. I'd play only the original world

    80 vote(s)
    36.9%
  2. I'd play only the new world

    50 vote(s)
    23.0%
  3. I'd play on both the original and new worlds

    41 vote(s)
    18.9%
  4. I would play on the new world for a little, then come back to the original world

    24 vote(s)
    11.1%
  5. I'd probably complain on the forums

    20 vote(s)
    9.2%
  6. Other (please specify)

    2 vote(s)
    0.9%
  1. Nostaigia
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    Figured it'd be interesting to see the responses to these.

    If a new world was added after the new source was implemented and the only changes were balancing tweaks (IF possible), what would you do on MapleRoyals?
     
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    I would ask for a third world.

    edit: With some custom rules. If they do create this third world I'd play on that one.
     
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    I'd love a new world. A clean world where everybody has to start over. I'd play there for sure.
     
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    From a competitive point of view, having a clean slate to work with might be fun for a while. Then it stops being fun. When is that? I don't know, but after a certain amount of time, this new world is going to be in the same place Scania is in now. I think for me to be really hooked on a new world, it would have to be fundamentally different in some way from our current world.

    No 4th jobs? Lower rates? No gachapon? No HP washing? No white scrolls & chaos scrolls? No 30%s and 70%s? No leeching? No elemental wands or maple weapons? Increased quest exp rates?
     
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    Hello Nostalgia and fellow royalers! If you have ever gotten bored of Royals, I share your pain.

    As time goes on, I feel that Royals have been getting extremely boring as item progression / leveling has gotten to a stand still where playing the game is no longer fun.

    Here are some suggestion that could make a new world potentially more enjoyable for years to come.

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    Remove Leech / HP washing

    Leeching fundamentally destroys the server. It makes it easier to level, earn mesos and discourages training parties. It makes it so that beautiful maps are left empty and people are left playing solo. Very depressing and dissapointed to see a server dominated by leeching activities.

    HP washing is cancer that discourages people from making a NL, BM, or sair as their first class. It punishes new players and forces a player to play a certain way. Sickening.

    Please get rid of this terrible design. It is hurting our fanbase.

    2. Make it harder to level

    Why was 2008 maplestory so amazing? Because it was fucking hard to level. This makes it so that players can focus on other aspects of the game such as socializing and item hunting. The only "fast" way to level back then was

    1. PQ
    2. Join a grinding party with a priest.

    Both of these methods are fun.

    3. Increase scarcity of scrolls / end game equips. (All Scrolls including weapon, chaos, and ws)

    This seriously needs to be implemented. It's not fun when you are a new player and several people are running aroud with perfect +7 10% weapons and 20 attack capes. Balance it out. Make godly items harder to obtain.

    Back then, a +6-7 60% weapon was considered godlike. A 10 att glove was considetered insanely late game good. People should be proud of their items not dissapointed because everyone else is much better. Back then, the 2008 economy was balanced. Let's bring it back where only a select few players who are extremely hardworking or possess leadership qualities are able to obtain godlike items.

    As of now, some Chinese farmer can make a bishop and sell leech non stop to make several billions. He can literally farm billions a month guaranteed.

    This is unhealthy for the economy.
    Nostalgia, (or other experienced player like Plenty) what are your opinions? That someone can sell leech for months and obtain your level of items?


    4. Introduce new content that encourages questing or parties to complete.


    I feel that Mapleroyals can be an even greater server with even more people. It can potentially be the best private server that ever existed.... we just need to make it happen.
     
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    If there will be a server before 4th job, I'll give it my soul.
     
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    To the OP: What sort of "balancing issues" do you propose, and why would we not be able to put them into our current world? I'd assume you've got things such as changing the nature of scrolls, jobs, rates on your mind, but that would change the game to something different than what we intend it to be, what we've made it to be over the last two years. From experience of reading feedback threads (both ones suggestion large changes and ones reacting to larger changes we've made), we've generally found a good balance so far, and while of course nothing is perfect, we're already getting closer to the mark. Suggestions such as the one by the poster above me are very drastic and while I'm sure there are players who would enjoy that sort of scenario, I'm willing to bet that it wouldn't be a large population, certainly not large enough to merit putting the amount of effort into expanding our resources in such a significant manner.

    But I could be wrong; like any suggestion, if there's enough support for it, we won't ignore it.
     
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    no 4th jobs? CB meso explo master race? Alex? :o
     
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    Be careful what you wish for. One of the major reasons this server is so big is because many players have invested too much here. A new world would divide the community--destroying guilds in the process--and cause many players to give up altogether and switch to other servers that are arguably better.
     
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    1 That's just your opinion. You don't ''have'' to HP wash. People love a challenge. Getting a certain amount of HP can be challenging.
    2 If people want to have a harder place to level in, they wouldn't play Royals in the first place
    3 People with perfect weapons worked ages for them. It's not like they joined the server made a few 14 attack capes and sold them for a couple billion. It takes months to get them. I understand the envying but, there are rather too many than too little scrolls around.
    Also... Chinese farmer? What are you even talking about. This is MapleRoyals, not World of Warcraft... Billions a month? Any Mage could make a billion a day farming at gobies or selling leech at skele, what's your point? That it's unfair that someone with a higher level account is able to farm more mesos than you can?
    4 It's a v62 server. It's hard to add content and not entirely ''ruin'' the nostalgia.
     
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    Nothing that would majorly change the game. Would 3x exp be more fun due to the game being harder? Maybe, but that is an entirely different subject. I think myself and others such as @inversion would agree that changes to drop tables, gachapon, and voting NX would be the top priorities. I would hope one would want the server to have a certain level of difficulty. 8k NX to a server of 500-900++ people per day with the current gachapon system (it isn't regular GMS gachapon,.. I am not sure what it is, though) results in flooded markets and far too easy/quick scrolling and advancing throughout the game. I would propose some of the more popular training places get tweaked drop tables (skeles, ulu, gobies, etc.) so the end game items arent being flooded into the game just because everyone trains there for the best exp.

    The main changes I would like to see would involve increasing the longevity of the world before it gets to where the current royals is, where 14 attack capes and shoes aren't uncommon and perfect weapons (scrolled perfect weapons) are not uncommon as well - and part of this has to do with how easy white scrolls flood the market with the current gachapon system combined with 8k free nx per day to 900+ players.

    tldr; tweaked drop tables, tweaked gachapon,tweaked voting NX. If the availability of white/chaos scrolls isnt decreased then I think they should be fundamentally changed in some way.

    Again, though, I don't think any staff has told us whether or not it is possible to make changes to a single world and not another world, and I would assume there would be lots of "oh well it isn't fair to so and so because x people didnt have the nerf blah blah" for most of the changes.
     
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    I would first create a character then play it for a short while , then make a thread and complain about all the defects and request the game to be changed to how I want it to be.
     
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    EDIT: Not worth it. People derail my own thread and troll it and I follow along lol.

    FYI I never proposed any new rules, or any changes myself in the OP. I said

    If there was a new world that was THE SAME or very SIMILAR with only some balancing changes

    Not "a new world that had all of Nostaigia's favorite things!"
     
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    These are some smart, reasonable changes. I play for an hour and see wave after wave of "user XXX got a white scroll/chaos scroll/high level weapon from Gachapon", it's pretty ridiculous. With the addition of getting rid of HP washing so that you can't make 18 mil a day starting at level 15, I think that would go a long way to balancing the server out.
     
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    New World? I think that would be a first time ever history in a maple private server. Maple feels better with more people around to train with, so a new world would be displeasing.
     
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    Ugh. Please don't split the worlds. What happens is then you have fewer people on both worlds. I think until we reach several thousand we shouldn't do this.
     
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    I think that a server without white scrolls would be nice since it kinda takes the kick out of scrolling if you WS.
    The only kick is that you have to spend so much money but I really liked the feeling when my 5th 30% hitted on a weapon after so many tries and after that you pretty much had to 60% it.
    And I really hated the feeling if it boomed at the 4th/5th but it's a party of my nostalgia :)

    Also I really like the nostalgic partys of maplestory so maybe a server where things like party play is stimulated.
    Where leech is less stimulated something like a changed party exp ratio is changed.
     
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    I believe last summer the limit of concurrent users online was increased from 500 to 2000 right?
    Any of the staff know what the actual limit might be that the server can support?
     
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    We're currently restricted to 2000 online at once, our new source might expand this amount.
     

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