I first heard of a 165 TMA clean Elemental Wand 5 yesterday. I smegaed to ask who claimed to have one, and someone who contacted the seller whispered me. He said the seller was a player with the IGN minnano. He had the seller show him the 165 TMA Elemental Wand 5 and it was NOT clean. In fact, it was scrolled quite a bit. Considering that perfect clean Elemental Wand 5s are 163 TMA clean, a 165 TMA clean Elemental Wand 5 is impossible or, at least, glitched. Edit: The original poster of this thread removed his claim of the wand being clean and the S/B (or C/O, if I remember from the smega yesterday) of 4.9b.