Corsair HP

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    I know that 5.6k for sair is enough at level 155.
    Currently im level 35 with INT 160 (87 base + 73 equipment) and 1307HP / 1160MP , would hit 170INT+ at level 50 with YAC, deputy and Z.helm.

    Just wanted to ask is it possible to have enough manapool for hp washing until 9k at level 155 and 11.5k HP at level 180 without MP washing? I'm middle funded player, not planning to go MP washing route. If its not enough to reach the goal, what will my HP be at the levels that i mentioned?

    I do not own a mage, further pumping my INT would be a pain in my ass to level up my sair tho... I enjoy the leveling process, don't think i'll buy leech (maybe at higher level 100+?, depends)
     
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    Taking into consideration that you'll have ~170 int by level 50 and 160 int between levels 35 to 50.

    By level 155, you'd have a total of 5345 MP with your minimum MP being 2901.
    Calculations are as followed.
    1. Min. MP = 18 x Level (155) + 111 = 2901
    2. MP at level 155 = 2901 + 16*15 + 105*17 = 2444 + 2901 = 5345
    Meaning that you have 2444/16 available washes = 152 washes --> 152 * 18 (average health gain) = 2736 HP additional HP alongside the 3790 min HP, totaling to 6526 HP by level 155.

    Taking it a step further, your HP at level 180 would be 7562 HP as you would have a total of 6220 MP, with 2869 MP to wash (179 washes), equating to an extra 3222 hp.
     
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    Thanks for the reply, btw what Min HP formula are u using? I found this in some hp washing guide for sair.
    [{(#JobAdv-1)*325 + Level*25} + 88.5]
    (3*325 + 155*25) + 88.5 = 4938.5 HP at Level 155 , correct me if im wrong.

    According to the min MP formula,
    Min MP Formula for Pirate = 18 x level + 111
    18*35 + 111 = 741 min MP at level 35
    For current Level 35 i have 1160MP
    , as i started to pump my INT and wear equips as low level as possible.
    1160 - 741 = 419 extra MP divided by 16 = 26 washes
    So, i still have around 26 washes for current level 35, am i right?

    I just started few months ago, i've read few HP washing threads for sair, just wondering not going MP washing will reach my goal or not.
     
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    My apologies, I was calculating the min HP using only the formula for the second job. The one you have listed seems to be the correct one.

    Taking that into account, you should have 7674.5 HP by level 155 and 8785.5 HP by level 180.

    In regards to your question about your washes. Yes, your calculations are correct in showing that you have 26 washes at your current level which would average out to be an extra 16*18, eighteen being the average HP gain = 288 HP, as of now.

    You'd fall short of your goal by about 1500 HP at level 155 and 2200 HP by 1800.
     
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    If I remember correctly, corsairs gain a fixed 20 hp using reset AP.
     
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    Really?!!! didn't know about that. I just know the range of corsair hp gain is 16~20HP.
    4938.5 Min HP at Level 155
    Total 152+26 = 178 washes at Level 155 x 20HP = 3560 HP
    Total up will be 8498.5 HP at Level 155

    For Level 180 i will have around 27 washes more.
    Will gain another 520HP
    with Min HP 5563.5 at Level 180 + total 205 washes
    I would land on 9663.5 HP.

    Not sure if my calculations are correct, it seems 11.5k HP at 180 is impossible without MP washing, but 9k at Level 155 still possible by pumping more INT or getting better INT equips.
     
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    Yes I can confirm that corsairs gain a solid 20 HP per wash. This is only when you are not using fresh AP to wash, but rather just taking out of MP and adding to HP using an AP reset (you need at least one fresh ap in either HP or MP though). When you use an ap reset using this method, it will show up on your screen as only gaining 16 HP, but you actually gain 20 if you look at your new HP. It's just a visual error.
     
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    Getting to 11.5k HP is definitely possible without MP washing but not at low total INT. You'll need about 300~350 around level 50 and onward. I highly suggest MP washing as it will be economical in the long run and you'll be able to wash all your INT out early instead of suffering from a lack of ~100 stats all the way to level 180.
     
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    I see, i just started few months ago and MP washing too costly. Maybe i will make a bishop or melee class for funding first then back to sair.
    The new player struggle :(
     

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