HP Washing Questions

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    Ok I'm finally starting to get how to HP wash with the formulas and all, but I'm still a bit confused so I have a few questions to ask...I would greatly appreciate it if someone answers them or at least one of them would be fine :D

    How many int do I generally want to aim for as an Assassin-Hermit?
    Is it better to have pure int gear or have a mix with some gear and added base int?
    Should I MP wash first or go with the HP washing with my int gear at Lv.100?
    If I were to MP wash, at what level range should I start?

    Sorry if the questions are a bit vague or even broad because I'm still leveling up my rogue and really don't want to mess it up :xD:
     
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    Actually, I'll make you a custom spreadsheet for you! I'll assume that you'll be leeching the entire way. I explained where to in my post here: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/leech-advice.71902/#post-373061. I need the following data from you first before I can make that document.

    1. What level is your rogue now?
    2. How much HP, MP, str, dex, luk, int, and unused AP does it have?
    3. What is your goal HP?
    4. Do you have a goal MP?
    5. What level do you want to have those HP and MP numbers?

    If you can provide all of that, I'll send an Excel your way. Before I make it, take a look at the one I made for my 7.5k HP, 30k MP bishop plans at https://uploadfiles.io/34ca233. So if you have any questions, I can answer them beforehand.

    I just found the spreadsheet I did for a friend's bucc. Sheet one is her HP washing with her current bucc and sheet two is her HP washing a remade bucc. Changing cell values like in the base int column are reflected in the rest of the spreadsheet's calculations, so tinkering around with this one might get you more used to how my spreadsheets are laid out. Download it here: https://uploadfiles.io/bff9243.

    For the links, just click on the free download option. I promise you it's safe. XD
     
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    @Shiyui Wow thanks man :)! My character is only level 23 atm. Do you want me to level up some more or give you the info now? I'll be sure to check the spreadsheets once I get on my computer
     
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    I'm a girl, hahaha!

    Give me the information whenever you like! OH ALSO! If you have int gear already, tell me the int on each item and each item's level requirement. <3
     
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    My bad lololol, my brain is wired to respond "dude "or "man" haha. I'm about to go to the movies with my friends. I'll try to give you all the info later ASAP
     
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    Ok, I think I understand everything in your spreadsheets, but can you clarify what MW is? Is it Maple Warrior? If it is, how does it affect everything ?And also, when they say MP gained is in sets of 10in = 1MP gained is that by int gear or base int/both?? Anyways, thanks again :) Using the spreadsheets is genius.

    1. Level 23 (Without equipping any of my int gear the whole time)
    2. 598HP ,296MP, 10str(Will reset though),30dex, 4int, 91luk, used all AP this level
    3. 7,500-9,000 HP (I need your opinion of this based on what I should get from my equips)
    4. I don't have any particular MP goal as long as I can wash
    5. By level 155 for the HP

    For my current int gear (Still upgrading some):
    Wooden wand, lv 8, 6int
    Work gloves, lv 10, 6 int
    Green Bandana, lv 10, 7 int
    Earrings lv 15, 5 int
    Bathrobe lv 20, 14 int
    Maple shield, lv 20, 5 int

    Z Helm lv 50, 15 int
    Deputy Star, lv 50, 5 all stats
    Shoes, lv 50, 3 int
    Cape, Lv.50, 8int
     
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    MW is Maple Warrior, yes! With MW 20, your base int is increased by 10%. So in my formulas, you'll see the base int cell multiplied by 1.1. MW does not affect int from int gear. When people say 10 int equals 1 extra MP, that 10 int comes from both base int and int gear. So let's say you have 100 base int and 50 int from int gear. With MW 20, you multiple base int by 1.1, so that's 100 x 1.1, which equals 110. Now factor in the int from int gear, which is 50, and your total int is 160. So when you level with that 160 total int, you get 16 extra MP!

    I assumed that for each level up, you have MW 20. If you don't have a character with MW 20, you can always ask on forums or in the shoutbox or in FM for someone to MW 20 you! I also assumed that you want 9.1k HP for HTing without HB or any stress about avoiding wing damage. I also assumed that you'll keep this int gear forever, so I didn't consider any hypothetical upgrades. If you get better int gear, you'll be able to reduce your base int and/or hit your washable MP goal sooner. Play with the base int and int gear cells! The rest of the spreadsheet automatically recalculates based on what you enter. In summary, with my worst case scenario calculations, you need 160 base int to get to 9.1k HP by level 155, but this actually gets you to 9.1k HP at level 150, so quite a bit earlier! This will take you 209 AP Resets for the actual HP washing and 156 AP Resets to take out your base int, for a total of 365 AP Resets. Assuming AP Resets at 10m each, this will cost you 3.65b.

    Download your spreadsheet here! https://uploadfiles.io/58cc029

    I changed a few columns and formulas to make the spreadsheet easier to understand. My old spreadsheets were kind of haphazard, hahaha! So the organization for yours is much better!

    As always, if you have any questions, ask away! :D
     
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    That's a lot of assuming haha! Thanks for taking some time out of your day to help a nub such as myself You explained everything perfectly clear!<3 Now I just gotta execute! ~f1~f2
     
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    If you have any requests like calculating with no MW 20 or with a different set of int gear, just ask!

    What I assumed is what I perceive to be either standard (9.1k HP goal) or realistic (MW 20 since tons of nice people will take a second to MW 20 you in FM when you're about to level up).

    Again, glad I could help! :D
     
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    I looked over the spreadsheet again and I'm wondering how you got 404 in the natural MP column at level 23. Is that suppose to be the amount of MP I have total? Cuz I noticed that in the side you mentioned assumed int gear from level 8-50,is everything calculated with me wearing my int gear at the start of level 8 because I didn't wear any of my int gear prior to level 23 lol ^_^' I'm not sure how much it would affect everything, but if it's messed up you can tell me if it's wrong or not and I could fix it myself if u want.
     
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    !!! Very good catch; thank you!!! I accidentally messed up the level cell values for the natural MP formula for first job. The correct natural MP for level 23 is now 299 MP. I know you have 296 MP, but this 3 MP difference is a natural fluctuation and doesn't have any significant impact on your HP washing goals, so don't stress over it. <3

    I only assumed you are wearing int gear from level 23 onwards; don't worry. I started the spreadsheet at level 23 because you're starting at level 23! XD

    I fixed the first job natural MP formulas, so all should be good now!

    Link here! https://uploadfiles.io/260e223
     
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    Oh I see I was wondering why it went from 200 to 400 like that! Well thanks a lot, I appreciate you adding even more detail info which is extremely helpful! Now I don't have to go keep pulling up another tab to see all the formulas!! :D
     
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    Hahaha, the dangers of copy-paste and change blindness when looking everything over... And glad you found my inclusion of general HP washing notes helpful! And, as you already well know, if you have any questions or suggestions for how I can improve the document, please let me know! <3
     
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