Is it better to wear equips for secondary stat or main stat?

Hello!

I'm currently fooling around with some scrolls and it got me wondering if its any different wearing equips scrolled with your secondary stat and increasing your raw main stat compared to increasing your secondary stat and equipping equipment scrolled with your main stat. For example, as an outlaw, should I wear a str overall and have lower base str compared to wearing a dex overall and having a higer base str. Same goes for all jobs.

They both seem the same to me as they would result in the same values in both stats? If you understand what i'm trying to say. Also, we wouldn't have to stress so much over having enough secondary stat for equips by having a higher raw secondary stat, which can easily be reset at anytime.

Thanks for reading!

 

Hello!

State-wise, they're the same, but later on you'll be using Maplewarrior (4th job skill) that incases your base stat by a percentage, which would be better if you'd go with wearing equips with your secondary stat and increasing your raw main stat.

 

Generally, you want to wear equipments with secondary stats so that you can benefit from having more base primary stats. Only base stats are accounted for when using Maple Warrior. However, if you can get godly scrolled primary stats while having to place some AP into secondary stat, that is fine as long as what you gain is more than the number of AP used *1.1.

 

Thanks for the input guys!

I just thought of this as I was having difficulty reaching 100 str for a concerto without having to further increase my raw str. Not many str scrolls in game compared to dex unfortunately. There's only overall and cape str for a corsair's secondary stat, and most players would target a wa cape over a str cape which makes hitting 100 even harder. Then there's facestompers which will eventually replace my str and dex shoes!

Anyways, thanks again for the advice!! I never thought of maple warrior playing a part in this little debate between stats.

 

It depends on the job and the persons stats. Some items you can only scroll for one stat(tops/bottoms) while with overalls, you have every stat to choose from. For a bowman, you'd want to scroll for str. For a warrior using an overall you'd scroll for str. For a sairs overall you scroll for str or dex depending on what level the overall is since it has a str requirement.

 

Doesnt really matter which stat you scroll for. If you scroll for your main stat youll have less base and less MW bonus (beacuse you need more base stats in your 2nd stat) , but youll get those points back from mw bonus in your secondary stat. For example if a bowman scrolls his OA for dex, he will get a smaller MW bonus for dex beacuse he needs more base str, but he gets a bigger MW bonus in str meaning he gets those lost dex points back. Overall youll end up with the same amount of stats so it doesnt really matter, just scroll for the stats thats the most convenient.

 

This is my recommendation for your corsair: 30+ str overall, 17+ str zhelm scrolled for dex, 3+ str krex ring, and optional htp for now but you want 10+ str clean before egging. I also have a str leaf scrolled with dex and some event rings that give stats. Earrings will be dex unless you have anniversary ones then chaos it, shoes, cape, and gloves weapon attack, obviously.

 

Primary stat>secondary stat for range

 

I mean, if you got 30 more base dex youll get 3 more from MW, and if you got 30 more base str youll get 3 more from MW, so the same. You get the same amount of stats from either, meaning it doesnt matter really beacuse you end up with the same amount of stats..

 

Yes, but the formula for range for a bowmaster is something like (3.4*dex+str)*total watt/1000 so 3 extra dex> 3 extra str. The multipliers are similar for all the other job's primary and secondary stats

 

Dex gives more dmg ofc for bowmen, im just saying you get the same amount of stats either way. If you have 900 base dex and 15 base str with a 99 str OA, youd have 115 str with MW and 990 dex. If you switch it up and say you had 105 base str and 810 base dex with a 99 dex OA, you'd still have 115 str and 990 dex. My point is it doesnt matter what stat you scroll for, aslong as you dont go over the 2nd stat requirement for your weapon ofcourse

 

The problem is same stats =/= optimal

 

It's the same
The ones with primary stats are cheaper usually but harder to find (though you will have the same range with 30 dex 10 str overall or 30 str 10 dex since mw boosts both baste str and dex)

 

Please. If you don't know how damage and stats work don't say false things.

 

Unless you're a mage or a warrior, generally scroll for your secondary stat.

 

I dont get what you mean by "optimal" in the case of my example. In both scenarios you end up with 990 dex and 115 str, the exact same. Care to explain how one is better than the other? You're saying its better to scroll for 2nd stats but you havent explained why. Simply saying "you're wrong" doesnt explain how or why im wrong.

I dont see what is false in the post you said this to, because you didnt say so. Once again youre just saying "you're wrong" without saying anything about why the statement in the post is false.

 

Your scenarios are unrealistic. At lvl 200 you have 1014 stats to use.

Let's say you have a 22str zhelm 28str htp and 8str krex ring which brings you to 62. This means you need 53 to equip a shiner. If you scroll your overall for 53 str, you can allocate 1014 dex which gives you an extra 1115.4 dex. Let's say this overall has 11dex so you gain 1126.4 dex.
If you choose to scroll for dex, let's say you make an 11/53 overall. This means you have to put 42 str into your base stat so you gain 4.2str but you only have 972 ap to put into dex so you get 1122.2 dex. You have the same amount of stats gained, but 1dex>3str so the first situation is more optimal.

 

Just beacuse my scenario is unrealistic it doesnt make it false
Actually you only need to put 38 str into base bceause you already have 4, meaning you get 976 ap in dex which is 980 with the original 4 base. 980 with MW bonus and a 53 dex overall would bring you to 1131 dex. In the first scenario you left the base str at 4, and base dex at 1018. In this scenario the total dex with MW and an 11 dex overall is 1130,8, but its rounded down to 1130 which is actually less than the build with a dex overall

Having your base str at 4 is actually suboptimal, same with 25 base dex for NLs. If you'd scroll something for dex instead and got your base str up to 10 youd get another str point from MW, without losing out on a dex point because 1018-5 is 1013, meaning you still get the same MW bonus. There is no desimal stats in maplestory, and maplewarrior only gives a stat for every 10 points, meaning 1013 and 1018 would give the same MW bonus. Take notes guys

 

Again, this is incorrect. The maple warrior calculations include decimals and I already included the base str in my scenarios and did not include the base dex because it stays constant between the two scenarios.

I suggest that before trying to correct me you look into the formulas

 

I've experimented with this and I know that Maple Warrior gives you: base stat/10 rounded to the nearest lower value. So in the case of 4 base stat instead of 10, you get none whereas you'll get 1 for 10. Similarly, 1018 stats vs 1013 means that you still get 101 stats from MW20. Please look at your stat menu again before we continue this discussion about who is wrong or not.