HP Washing Uncertainties.

Hi all,

I'm a relatively new player on this server and found out about HP washing a little while ago. So I did some research and read the guides and I think I get the general idea of it and to do it, but now I'm left with some questions that I'm hoping to get answered here.

Class: NL
Level: 63
HP: 1798
MP: 1072
HP Goal: 8-10k
(if any more info is needed let me know)

So on to my questions.

1. Is it too late? (I've seen people say that they started even later than me so I'm hoping not...)

2. Is it necessary to add base INT? (Can I just rely on INT equips and base 4 INT?)

3. I've come across 2 equations for min MP for thief, (4 x level)+56 and (14 x level)+148, which one is it? I'm confused...

4. Is there a way to wash the MP I have already? Or is it just there now?

I did a bit of searching and couldn't find answers to these questions but sorry if they've been asked before.

Of course any help is much appreciated, thanks.

 

Can you please provide your clean base hp/mp since gears like dep star and the zombie army ring does give hp/mp. Also I would need your base INT and INT you get from gears. If you can post photos it would be more helpful.

The correct formula is (4 x level) + 156

But most likely you'll need to have base INT and start MP washing.

 

if you want 8-10k at level 155, you probably need about 4-5k extra hp. did a little test at level 63 similar hp, and leveled to 155 with 50 int per level, you only get up to 1800+ hp lolz, so I would assume you need to level at *150-180int per level. It turns out 120int starting for 63 to 155 only grants about 3000 hp. It is difficult to make a high hp attacker without your own bishop, so I recommend you make a bishop. =D

 

My clean HP and MP is the same even after unequiping everything, my base int is 4 and the only +int i have right now is a black bandana +1 int . I'm thinking of not leveling for a bit and working on my int gear.

 

Hmmmm interesting, i guess i could settle for around 7k if that's more realistic, also apologies for my noobness but how will a bishop help me?

 

Bishop is able to fund you main character and provide leech when for faster leveling.

 

I'll calculate for you the amount needed to hit 8k at lvl 155. Are you sitting on any fresh ap at all or no? Like I stated before screen shots would help a lot.

 

The answer is always restart to make a Bishop and then HP wash starting from level 1 until level 135 if your HP goal is only 8-10K

 

It is possible to hit 8k hp without making a bishop. You will have to buy leech most of the way since you will be purely int from here on out though. I would recommend getting yourself a zhelm, a dep star, a 6-7 INT wand which is relatively cheap, and do APQ till you can scroll yourself a cape with 9-12 INT (since ape does drop cape INT 30% and lvl 50 capes. Also scroll your zhelm with INT since you can alway reloot. Also you will have to MP wash for a few levels since you do not have any INT gear.

But since you do not have any of those items I will calculate the amount of base int needed and washes you will have to do w/o any INT gear. But I'll do it later since Ima head to bed now.

 

ahh i see thanks for the advice!

 

Thanks! Actually i do have 10 unused AP. What would you like me to screenshot? my stat window or my equips or something?

 

Was hoping this wasn't the case...

 

Please do. I have asked for them multiple times already.

 

sorry about that.

 

Just picked this up as well.

 

you can always do the double wash if anything but it is hella costly, and you also need to hoard ability points if you want to double wash. more details can be found in google.

 

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/fully-revised-hp-washing-guide.8286/ The formula for thief should be (14 x level)+14. (4 x level) + 156 is for Fighter class.

 

Current level: 63
HP: 1798
MP: 1072
HP Goal: 8-10k
Base INT: 4
INT from gear: 15
Total INT: 19 - So every time you level you'll only gain +1 extra mp
Current excess MP: 47 which equates to 3 washes
Minimum amount of mp needed at 155 is 2,318

At 155 with your natural hp w/o washes is: 1798 + [(155-63(current level)) X 22 (average natural hp gain)] = 3,822
So you'll need 8,000 - 3,822 = 4,178 extra hp which is about 2,785 extra mp if you are washing w/o fresh ap
So you'll need total 5103 mp at most to hit 8,000 hp at level 155 (safest estimate)
Total of 232 AP resets

I would say to aim for 150 - 200 Base INT since you have no gears like a zhelm(13-22INT)/dep star(5INT)/bathrobe (10-15INT)

So the soonest you will have 150 INT would be lvl 90 if you put the 10 unused ap into INT

Spoiler: mp gained while getting to lvl 90

level : total INT when leveled : MP gained
lvl 64 : total INT (29) : +2mp
lvl 65 : total INT (34) : +3mp
lvl 66 : total INT (39) : +3mp
lvl 67 : total INT (44) : +4mp
lvl 68 : total INT (49) : +4mp
lvl 69 : total INT (54) : +5mp
lvl 70 : total INT (59) : +5mp
lvl 71 : total INT (69) : +6mp
lvl 72 : total INT (74) : +7mp
lvl 73 : total INT (79) : +7mp
lvl 74 : total INT (84) : +8mp
lvl 75 : total INT (89) : +8mp
lvl 76 : total INT (94) : +9mp
lvl 77 : total INT (99) : +9mp
lvl 78 : total INT (104) : +10mp
lvl 79 : total INT (109) : +10mp
lvl 80 : total INT (114) : +11mp
lvl 81 : total INT (119) : +11mp
lvl 82 : total INT (124) : +12mp
lvl 83 : total INT (129) : +12mp
lvl 84 : total INT (134) : +13mp
lvl 85 : total INT (139) : +13mp
lvl 86 : total INT (144) : +14mp
lvl 87 : total INT (149) : +14mp
lvl 88 : total INT (154) : +15mp
lvl 89 : total INT (159) : +15mp
lvl 90 : total INT (164) : +16mp
TOTAL MP GAINED: 246

-At level 90 you will have 4 extra ap and 150 base INT-

2,785 - 246 = 2,539 MP still needed

Assuming you are planning to wash out all the INT by 135 so you can start doing Zak and Krex

(135 - 90) X 16 = 720 MP gained from Total INT

2,539 - 720 = 1,819 MP still needed
- I will not calculate the amount of mp gained from gear after 135 due to human error of forgetting to equip INT gear -

MP WASH
Formula for mp washing
base INT/10 = 15 MP per 1 ap used
1,819/15 = 121 ap needed to mp wash

With the 4 extra ap from level 90 and every fresh ap till lvl 112 you will need to MP wash thus reaching your goal

Spoiler: How to MP wash

1. Put 1 fresh ap into MP
2. Use an AP reset to take a point out of mp and put it into LUCK

After reaching your goal of 5,103 mp you can either use ap resets to wash out all the mp int hp or use fresh ap into hp then reset mp into luck

Method 1
- AP reset MP (-12) to HP (+16-20) -

Spoiler: How this is done

1. Put 1 fresh Ap into HP
2. Use an AP reset to take a point out of MP and put it into HP
3. After reseting all the excess MP Use an HP reset to take a point out of HP and put it into LUCK

2,785(excess mp)/12 = 232(resets needed)
232 X 18(average hp gained) = 4,178 HP gained

TOTAL AP resets: 121 (Ap reset used for MP wash) + 232 (Ap resets used for HP washing) + 146 (Ap resets used to take out base INT) = 499
Cost: 499 X 8,000,000 = 3,992,000,000 : ~4b *If you buy AP resets at the price of 8M

Method 2 RECOMMENDED
- Fresh ap into hp (+20-24) -

Spoiler: How this is done

1. Put 1 AP into HP
2. Use an AP reset to take a point out of MP and put it into LUCK

If you decided to use fresh ap you'll be resetting (155 - 113) X 5 = 210 fresh ap giving you 22 X 210 = ~4,620 HP

4,620 HP is more than 4,178 HP needed.
210 AP resets used rather than 232 AP resets needed.
TOTAL AP resets: 121 (Ap reset used for MP wash) + 210 (Ap resets used for HP washing) + 146 (Ap resets used to take out base INT) = 477
Cost: 470 X 8,000,000 = 3,816,000,000 : ~3.8b *If you buy AP resets at the price of 8M


I know this is over compensating and you might be able to get away with less base INT depending wether or not if you get a zhelm and equip your INT gear and have mw10/20 every time you level, but better to be safe. I also did not take into account the amount of natural mp you gain per level

I believe I did all the calculations correct. If not I am sorry.

 

Wow!! That was insanely helpful! Thank you so much for putting in that level of effort. I'll definitely follow all these steps going forward.

 

Just to clarify, when washing my base INT, do I put the points into MP?