Why is leeching in a pq not bannable?

just ban these idiots for a week everytime they leech and that will stop them.

 

Oh, I don't know, because it's not breaking any of the server's rules?

 

Well I wonder what people tend to do when other people behave in a certin way that is not wanted, they make new rules to prevent it.
If someone would be banned for a week because he was too lazy to help in a PQ he will not reapet that behavior.

 

Or you could just kick players from your party if they leech, or am I missing something here?
Why should we have to consider adding a new rule for something that can be solved so easily by the players within that party?

 

Because its getting to a point that I have to deal with it in every party?, why should I have to deal with it if everyone can just report other players leeching with proof and get them banned, seems alot easier to deal with the problem than just say kick them from the party.
Because after I kick them they join another party and etc... and you know if it was like 10 people id understand where your coming from but it happens litearly every party I form,atleast 1 guy is just afking.
As if its so hard for you to open another tab in the forums with the title: "Reports on leechers".

Edit: After you do open it and make people aware that they can report these annoying assholes you would see that theres too many of them,and just kicking them is not solving the problem if you even consider it a problem.

 

And add more work for GMs regarding such petty things? This thread smells of self entitlement all over

 

I would personally advise to just do what people in other games do:
Make your own party and recruit with the requirements that one is not allowed to afk or leech in your party, rather than just inviting anyone you see walk around the pq area.
If they still afk or leech, you make an example out of them by kicking them as you mentioned you would in your recruitment post.
You can't expect change to happen if you don't work for it, and with that said I think your first step should not be to ask others to solve the problem for you.

Additionally I'd like to mention that I've never seen any game have rules against leeching, and I don't think we should have them either.
Banning for leeching sounds rather petty if you'd ask me, especially since like I've mentioned the problem is 100% solveable by the community itself.

 

Seems to me like your ignoring the problem but thats your server.
Not everyone wants to wait 20 mintues outside of the pq for the right person,and by kicking them your just sending the person to another party for him to do the same there,like I said kicking is not solving the problem its showing people that they can do whatever they want because theres no drawback for leeching.
The point of banning them is to destroy the problem making people see that its not worth the time to leech because you might get banned for a week or a few days.

And for the person above the gm I think I have better stuff to do then just create random problems for the gms,Iv'e been playing this server for a week and it seems like its kinda ridiclous that I have to deal with this in every party.
If you guys think this problem is not that big than the work for it shouldn't be that hard since most of the work is done by the users that post proof of people leeching.

 

Let me ask, what PQ are you talking about?

 

Ludi pq 33-51

 

You gotta keep in mind that this rule could lead to a ban on many innocent players. If im in a pq and i spill coke over my keyboard, id like to go afk and save my keyboard before its too late, but then i'd get banned for leeching. My point is that theres plenty of reasons someone would want to go afk during a pq, which would lead to a ban if a rule like this was to be implemented. Also, you probably dont want this answer, but if your pq experience so far has been this bad i suggest just grinding through those levels.

 

Let me chip in on this bro.

Leeching is funny type of thing to try ban. Then you must ban it altogether which is impossible to enforce and a waste of time. Also, Ludi PQ is not difficult to rush. Completing however is a different story but, even 2 or 3 people within a party can rush let alone all. What one must remember is that only the one with the most damage can collect the dropped ticket. What you could do is try get your party to rotate so that people can have a rest run then a break run. And that's if you rush first stage, the other 2 which people usually add on is a different matter coz it can get annoying when someone just leeches all the way through.

But that's what the kick button is for if it's that bad! Just wait until new source and CPQ instead bro if it really bugs you that much

 

I can tell between people typing imma brb a few min then people that just stay quiet or try to be sneaky not doing anything or like people that say "ill help when needed". and why I should go grind because of the leechers and get less exp.
Its not that hard to record the game for a few min or an entire run, to show someone staying afk or not helping deliberately even when asked.
And im talking about ludi rushes, not the entire runs.
Also be real every time I invite somoene something horrible happens that he has to leave that second,that shit happens rarely and most people say somthing if its that important.

Clearly you don't see this problem the same as I do so I can't really do much about,if you deem it a worthy thing to look into thats your choice just sharing my experince from a weeks worth of playing.

 

But what if someone just always said "brb, gotta do something" although theyre just being lazy and afk leeching? Theres no way to tell if that person actually has to afk or is just lying to not get banned. Even if people rarely afk for legit reasons, it still happens which is why i think a rule like this would never work out.

 

theres a huge diffrence between someone being afk for a few min and someone thats not moving for like 2-3 runs while progressing to each stage at the exact time it is done,its pretty obvious to tell between the two. And it dosen't have to be public the player can report him direcly to the gm and the gm can look into him to see if this is reapeted behavior and ban him accordinly. if the gms are too lazy to do it thats a diffrent story

 

LOL?

 

clearly your a leecher and you hope they won't take this seirously.

 

You're

 

As someone who owns an Archmage and has leeched many of my own characters in LPQ rushes, I have always made my own parties and I have personally kicked MANY people from my group for AFK and not looting passes. If you want to exclude AFKs from your rush pqs LEAD the party. Kick them from the group. Its not up to the GMs to enforce a rule you can so simply do yourself as the end user. And if it really is as bad as you say it is, which its not, just don't do the PQ. Take yourself out of the unwanted situation and have fun happy maple times by yourself. Excluded from an environment where you can interact with others.

 

In my opinion this is a easy problem to fix with some work from the gms but clearly people think this is not worth their time because you can simply kick them and then they are someone else problem,insted of doing it for a peroid of time to exclude this problem once an for all or just continue to ignore making more people leech.
And im not gonna remove myself and delay my own leveling because some people are being assholes when its easy to make a report system on these people.

The only reasons I can see why it shouldn't be implemented is if the gm dosen't think the problem is severe enough or out of laziness.